AM68T4 - This light in oneself

Amsterdam - 19 May 1968
Public Talk 4
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0:08
ONE
CAN
TALK
endlessly,
describing,
piling
words
upon
words,
coming
to
various
conclusions.
But
out
of
all
this
verbal
confusion,
if
there is
one
clear
action,
that
action
is
worth
ten
thousand
words.
Most
of
us
are
afraid
to
act,
because
we ourselves
are
confused,
disorderly,
contradictory
and
miserable.
We hope,
despite
this
confusion,
this
disarray,
that
some
kind
of
clarity
may
come
into
being,
a clarity
that
can
never
be
clouded
over,
a clarity
that
is
not
given
or
induced
or
taken
away,
a clarity
that
maintains
itself
without
any
effort,
volition,
without
any
motive;
a clarity
that
has
no
end
and
therefore
no
beginning.
2:28
Most
of
us,
if
we are
at
all
aware
of
our
inward
confusion,
do
desire
this;
we want
such
clarity.
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2:49
This
morning,
if
we may,
(and
I'm
sorry
you have
to
sit
in
a hall
when
there are
lovely
clouds,
sunshine
and
waving
trees
outside)
let
us
see
if
each
one
of
us
can
come
upon
this
clarity,
so
that
when
you leave
this
hall
your
mind
and
your
heart
are
very
clear,
undisturbed,
with
no
problems
and
no
fear.
If
we could
go
into
this
it would
be
immensely
worthwhile
for
each
one
of
us
to
see
if
one
could
be
a light
to
oneself,
a light
that
has
no
dependence
on
another
and
that
is
completely
free.
To
go
into
this
one
has
to
explore
rather
a complex
problem.
4:51
Either
one
can
explore
it intellectually,
analytically,
taking
off
layer
after
layer
of
confusion
and
disorder,
taking
many
days,
many
years,
perhaps
a whole
lifetime
-
and
then
perhaps
not
finding
it.
Either
you do
that,
this
analytical
process
of
cause
and
effect;
or
perhaps
you can
sidestep
all
that
completely
and
come
to
it directly
-
without
the intermediary
of
the authority
of
the intellect,
or
of
a norm.
To
do
that
requires
that
much
abused
word
'meditation'.
That
word
has
unfortunately
become
a monopoly
of
the
East
and
therefore
utterly
worthless.
6:26
I don't
know
why
the
Orient
has
this
peculiar
dominance
over
the
West
about
spirituality,
as
though
they
have
got
it in
their
pocket
and
can
give
it out
to
you.
Most
of
them
do
so
at
a considerable
expense,
you have
to
pay
for
it!
Or
they
use
it as
a means
of
exploiting
you in
the name
of
an idea
or
a promise.
I don't
know
why
it is
so,
both
in
India
and
with
those
unfortunate
people
who
come
out
of
that
country,
including
myself
(though
I am
not
an Indian,
I refuse
to
have
any
nationality;
there is
a peculiar
feeling
that
being
an old
civilization,
having
talked
a great
deal
about
this
peculiar
quality
of
spirituality,
that
they
therefore
have
this
authority.
8:14
But
I'm
afraid
they
haven't
-
they
are
just
like
you and
me,
they
are
just
as
confused
and
dull
-
though
perhaps
clever
with
their
tongues,
and
they
have
learnt
one
or
two
tricks
and
can
try
to
convey
to
others
a system,
a method
of
meditation.
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8:47
So
that
word
meditation
has
become
rather
spoilt;
like
love,
it has
been
besmirched.
But
it is
a lovely
word,
it has
a great
deal
of
meaning,
there is
a great
deal
of
beauty,
not
in
the word
itself
but
the meaning
behind
that
word.
And
we are
going
to
see
for
ourselves,
each
of
us,
if
we cannot
come
upon
this
state
of
mind
that
is
always
in
meditation.
To
lay
the foundation
for
that
meditation
one
must
understand
what
living
is
-
living
and
dying.
The understanding
of
life
and
the extraordinary
meaning
of
death
is
meditation.
10:29
It is
not
searching
out
some
deep
mystical
experience;
not
-
as
it is
done
in
the
East
-
a repetition
of
words,
as
the
Catholics
and
others
also
do,
a constant
repetition
of
a series
of
words,
however
hallowed,
however
ancient.
That
only
makes
the mind
quiet,
but
it also
makes
the mind
rather
dull,
stupid,
mesmerized.
You might
just
as
well
take
a tranquilizer,
which
is
much
easier.
So
the repetition
of
words,
self-hypnosis,
the following
of
a system
or
a method
-
that
is
not
meditation.
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11:40
I think
we should
be
very
clear
about
these
two
facts,
experience
and
following
a method,
a system,
that
promises
a reward
of
some
vast
transcendental
experience.
When
one
talks
about
experience,
the word
itself
means,
does
it not,
to
go
through
something,
to
be
pushed
through?
And
to
experience
also
implies,
doesn't
it,
a process
of
recognition?
I had
an experience
yesterday,
and
it has
either
given
me
pleasure
or
pain.
To
be
entirely
with
that
experience
one
must
recognize
it.
Recognition
means
something
that
has
already
happened
before
and
therefore
experience
is
never
new.
13:10
Do
please
bear
this
in
mind.
It can
never
be
new
because
it has
already
happened
and
therefore
there is
a recollection,
a remembrance,
a memory
of
it and
therefore
a person
who
says,
'I've
had
great
transcendental
experience,
a tremendous
experience',
such
a person
is
exploiting
others,
because
he
thinks
he
has
had
a marvellous
experience,
which
already
has
happened
and
therefore
is
utterly
old.
Truth
can
never
be
experienced,
that
is
the beauty
of
it,
because
it is
always
new,
it is
never
what
happened
yesterday.
14:35
That
must
be
totally,
completely,
forgotten
or
gone
through
-
what
happened
yesterday
-
the incident
of
yesterday
must
be
finished
with
yesterday.
But
to
carry
that
over
as
an experience
to
be
measured
in
terms
of
achievement,
or
to
convey
to
others
that
extraordinary
something,
to
impress,
to
convey,
to
convince
others,
seems
to
me
so
utterly
silly.
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15:23
One
must
be
very
cautious,
guarded,
about
this
word
experience,
because
you can
only
remember
an experience
when
it has
already
happened
to
you.
That
means,
there
must
be
a centre,
a thinker,
an observer,
who
retains
and
holds
the thing
that
is
over;
therefore
it is
something
already
dead;
it is
nothing
new.
It is
like
a Christian
steeped
in
his
particular
conditioning,
burdened
with
two
thousand
years
of
propaganda;
when
he
has
a vision
of
his
Saviour,
whatever
he
may
call
him,
it is
merely
a projection,
it is
his
own
conditioning,
his
own
wish,
his
own
desire.
16:54
It is
the same
with
Krishna
or
whoever
it is.
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17:04
So
one
must
be
tremendously
cautious
about
this
word.
You cannot
possibly
experience
truth
as
long
as
there is
a centre
of
recollection
as
the
'me',
as
the thinker;
then
truth
is
not.
And
when
another
says
that
he
has
an experience
of
the real,
distrust
him,
don't
accept
his
authority.
We all
want
to
accept
somebody
who
promises
something,
because
we have
no
light
in
ourselves,
but
nobody
can
give
you that
light,
no
one
-
no
guru,
no
teacher,
no
Saviour,
no
one.
Because
we have
accepted
so
many
authorities
in
the past,
have
put
our
faith
in
others,
either
they
have
exploited
us
or
they
have
utterly
failed.
18:45
So
one
must
distrust,
deny
all
spiritual
authority.
Nobody
can
give
us
this
light
that
never
dies.
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19:04
There is
another
thing
involved
in
this
acceptance
of
authority
-
the following
of
another
who
promises,
through
a certain
system,
method,
or
discipline,
the eventual,
ultimate
reality.
To
follow
another
is
to
imitate.
Please
do
observe
all
this,
listen
to
all
this
simply.
Because
that
is
what
one
has
to
do:
one
has
to
deny
completely
the authority
of
another,
however
pretentious,
however
convincing,
however
Asiatic
he
be!
To
follow
implies
not
only
the denying
of
one's
own
clarity,
of
one's
own
investigation,
one's
integrity
and
honesty,
but
also
it implies
that
in
following,
your
motive
is
the reward.
20:50
Truth
is
not
a reward.
If
one
is
to
understand
it,
every
form
of
reward
and
punishment
must
be
totally
set
aside.
Authority
implies
fear.
And
to
discipline
oneself
according
to
that,
fear
of
not
gaining
what
the exploiter
in
the name
of
truth
or
experience
says,
is
to
deny
one's
own
clarity
and
honesty.
So
if
you say
you must
meditate,
you must
follow
a certain
path,
a certain
system,
obviously
you are
conditioning
yourself
according
to
that
system
or
method.
Perhaps
you will
get
what
that
method
promises,
but
it will
be
nothing
but
ashes.
22:12
For
the motive
is
achievement,
success
and
at
the root
of
that
is
fear,
and
fear
is
connected
with
pleasure.
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22:28
So
have
we clearly
understood
that
between
yourself
and
myself
there is
no
authority?
The speaker
has
no
authority
whatsoever.
He
is
not
trying
to
convince
you of
anything,
nor
asking
you to
follow.
You know,
when
you follow
somebody
you destroy
that
person.
The disciple
destroys
the master
and
the master
destroys
the disciple.
You can
see
this
happening
historically
and
also
in
daily
life,
when
the wife
or
the husband
dominate
each
other
they
destroy
each
other.
In
that
there is
no
freedom,
there is
no
beauty,
there is
no
love.
23:36
So,
having
set
that
our
clearly,
we can
now
proceed
to
meditate
about
life,
about
death,
about
love.
Because
if
we do
not
lay
the right
foundation,
a foundation
of
order,
of
clear
line
and
depth,
then
thought
must
inevitably
become
tortuous,
deceptive,
unreal,
and
therefore
valueless.
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24:43
So
the laying
of
this
foundation,
this
order,
is
the beginning
of
meditation.
Our
life,
the daily
life
which
we lead,
from
the moment
we are
born
until
we die
-
through
marriage,
children,
jobs,
achievements
-
our
life
is
a battlefield,
not
only
within
ourselves
but
also
outwardly,
in
the family,
in
the office,
in
the group,
in
the community
and
so
on.
Our
life
is
a constant
struggle:
that
is
what
we call
living.
Pain,
fear,
despair,
anxiety,
with
sorrow
constantly
our
shadow,
that
is
our
life.
26:15
Perhaps
a small
minority
can
observe
this
disorder
without
finding
external
excuses
(though
there are
external
causes
for
this
confusion).
Perhaps
a small
minority
can
observe
it,
know
it,
look
at
it,
not
only
at
the conscious
level
but
also
at
a deeper
level,
neither
accepting
nor
denying
this
disorder,
this
confusion,
this
frightening
mess
in
ourselves
and
the world
-
and
it is
always
the small
minority
that
brings
about
a vital
change.
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27:21
You know
a great
deal
has
been
written
about
the unconscious,
especially
in
the
West.
Extraordinary
significance
has
been
given
to
it.
But
it is
as
trivial,
as
shallow
as
the conscious
mind.
You can
observe
it for
yourself;
if
you observe
it you will
see
that
what
is
called
the unconscious
is
the residue
of
the race,
of
the culture,
of
the family,
of
your
own
motives
and
appetites
-
it is
there,
hidden.
And
the conscious
mind
is
occupied
with
the daily
routine
of
life,
going
to
the office,
sex
and
all
the rest
of
it.
28:34
To
give
importance
to
the one
or
to
the other
seems
to
me
so
utterly
sterile.
Both
have
very
little
meaning,
except
that
the conscious
mind
has
to
have
technological
knowledge
in
order
to
earn
a livelihood.
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28:58
This
constant
battle,
both
within
at
the deeper
level
as
well
as
at
the superficial
level,
is
the constant
way
of
our
life.
It is
a way
of
disorder,
a way
of
disarray,
contradiction,
misery.
And
such
a mind
trying
to
meditate,
by
means
of
some
school
in
the
East,
is
meaningless,
infantile.
Yet
many
do,
as
though
they
will
escape
from
life,
put
a blanket
over
their
misery
and
cover
it up.
But
meditation
is
bringing
about
order
in
this
confusion,
not
through
effort,
because
every
effort
distorts
the mind.
30:17
That
one
can
see:
to
see
truth
the mind
must
be
absolutely
clear,
without
any
distortion,
without
any
compunction,
without
any
direction.
So
this
foundation
must
be
laid;
that
is,
there
must
be
virtue.
Order
is
virtue.
This
virtue
has
nothing
whatever
to
do
with
the social
morality,
which
we accept.
Society
has
imposed
on
us
a certain
morality,
but
the society
is
the product
of
every
human
being.
Society
with
its
morality
says
you can
be
greedy,
you can
kill
another
in
the name
of
God,
in
the name
of
your
country,
in
the name
of
an ideal;
you can
be
competitive,
envious,
within
the law.
31:57
Such
morality
is
no
morality
at
all.
You must
totally
deny
that
morality
within
yourself
in
order
to
be
virtuous.
And
that
is
the beauty
of
virtue;
virtue
is
not
a habit,
it is
not
something
that
you practise
day
after
day
in
order
to
be
virtuous.
That
is
mechanical,
a routine,
without
meaning.
But
to
be
virtuous
means,
does
it not,
to
know
what
is
disorder
-
disorder
which
is
this
contradiction
within
ourselves,
this
tearing
of
various
pleasures
and
desires
and
ambitions,
greed,
envy,
fear
-
all
that.
32:59
Those
are
the causes
of
disorder
within
ourselves
and
outwardly.
To
be
aware
of
it!
That
is,
to
come
into
contact
or
to
be
in
contact
with
this
disorder.
And
you can
only
come
into
contact
with
it when
you don't
deny
it,
when
you don't
find
excuses
for
it,
when
you don't
blame
others
for
it.
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33:34
In
the denial
of
that
disorder
there is
order.
Order
isn't
a thing
that
you establish;
virtue
which
is
order
comes
out
of
disorder,
to
know
the whole
nature
and
structure
of
disorder.
This
is
fairly
simple
if
you observe
in
yourself
how
utterly
disorderly
and
contradictory
we are.
We hate,
yet
we think
we love.
There is
the beginning
of
disorder,
of
this
duality.
And
virtue
is
not
the outcome
of
duality.
Virtue
is
a living
thing,
to
be
picked
up
daily,
it is
not
the repetition
of
something
which
you called
virtue
yesterday.
34:55
That
becomes
mechanical,
worthless.
So
there
must
be
order.
And
that
is
part
of
meditation.
Order
means
beauty,
and
there is
so
little
beauty
in
our
life.
Beauty
is
not
man
made;
it is
not
in
the picture,
however
modern,
however
ancient
it is;
it is
not
in
the building,
in
the statue,
nor
in
the cloud,
the leaf
or
on
the water.
Beauty
is
where
there is
order
-
a mind
that
is
unconfused,
that
is
absolutely
orderly.
And
there
can
be
order
only
where
there is
total
self-denial,
when
the
'me'
has
no
importance
whatsoever.
36:27
The ending
of
the
'me'
is
part
of
meditation.
That
is
the major,
the only
meditation.
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36:38
Also
we have
to
understand
another
phenomenon
of
life,
which
is
death
-
death
from
old
age,
or
disease,
and
accidental
death,
through
disease
or
naturally.
We grow
old
inevitably
and
that
age
is
shown
in
the way
we have
lived
our
life,
it shows
in
our
face,
whether
we have
satisfied
our
appetites
crudely,
brutally.
We lose
sensitivity,
the sensitivity
one
had
when
one
was
young,
fresh,
innocent.
And
as
we grow
older
we become
insensitive,
dull,
unaware
and
gradually
enter
the grave.
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38:10
So
there is
old
age.
And
there is
this
extraordinary
thing
called
death,
of
which
most
of
us
are
dreadfully
frightened.
If
we are
not
frightened,
we have
rationalized
this
phenomenon
intellectually
and
have
accepted
the edicts
of
the intellect.
But
it is
still
there.
And
obviously
there is
the ending
of
the organism,
the body.
And
we accept
that
naturally,
because
we see
everything
dying.
But
what
we do
not
accept
is
the psychological
ending,
the
'me',
with
the family,
with
the house,
with
success,
the things
I have
done,
and
the things
I have
still
to
do,
the fulfilments
and
the frustrations
-
and
there is
something
more
to
do
before
I end!
39:40
And
the psychological
entity,
we're
afraid
that
will
come
to
an end
-
the me,
the
I,
the soul,
in
the various
forms,
words,
that
we give
to
the centre
of
our
being.
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39:57
Does
it come
to
an end?
Does
it have
a continuity?
The
East
has
said
it has
a continuity,
there is
reincarnation,
being
born
better
next
life
if
you have
lived
rightly.
If
you believe
in
reincarnation,
as
the whole
of
Asia
does
(I don't
know
why
they
do,
but
it gives
them
a great
deal
of
comfort),
then
in
that
idea
is
implied,
if
you observe
it very
closely,
that
what
you do
now,
every
day,
matters
tremendously.
Because
in
the next
life
you're
going
to
pay
for
it or
be
rewarded
-
how
you have
lived.
41:32
So
what
matters
is
not
what
you believe
will
happen
next
life,
but
what
you are
and
how
you live.
And
that
is
implied
also
when
you talk
about
resurrection.
Here
you have
symbolized
it in
one
person
and
worship
that
person,
because
you yourself
don't
know
how
to
be
reborn
again
in
your
life
now
(not
in
Heaven
at
the right
hand
of
God,
whatever
that
may
mean).
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42:22
So
what
matters
is,
how
you live
now
-
not
what
your
beliefs
are
-
but
what
you are,
what
you do.
But
we are
afraid
that
the centre,
called
the
'I',
may
come
to
an end;
and
we ask:
does
it come
to
an end?
Please
listen
to
this!
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43:10
You have
lived
in
thought,
that
is,
you have
given
tremendous
importance
to
thinking;
but
thinking
is
old,
thinking
is
never
new,
thinking
is
the continuation
of
memory.
If
you have
lived
there,
obviously
there is
some
kind
of
continuity.
And
it is
a continuity
that
is
dead,
over,
finished,
it is
something
old;
therefore
only
that
which
ends
can
have
something
new.
So
dying
is
very
important
to
understand:
to
die,
to
die
to
everything
that
one
knows.
I don't
know
if
you have
ever
tried
it?
To
be
free
from
the known,
to
be
free
from
your
memory,
even
for
a few
days;
to
be
free
from
your
pleasure,
without
any
argument,
without
any
fear,
to
die
to
your
family,
to
your
house,
to
your
name,
to
become
completely
anonymous.
44:57
It is
only
the person
who
is
completely
anonymous
who
is
in
a state
of
non-violence;
he
has
no
violence.
And
so
to
die
every
day,
not
as
an idea
but
actually!
Do
do
it sometime.
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45:34
You know,
one
has
collected
so
much,
not
only
books,
houses,
the bank
account,
but
inwardly,
the memories
of
insults,
the memories
of
flattery,
the memories
of
neurotic
achievements,
the memory
of
holding
on
to
your
own
particular
experience,
which
gives
you a position.
To
die
to
all
that,
without
argument,
without
discussion,
without
any
fear,
just
to
give
it up.
Do
it sometime,
you'll
see.
It used
to
be
the tradition
in
the
East,
that
a rich
man
every
five
years
or
so,
gave
up
everything,
including
his
money
and
began
again.
46:41
You can't
do
that
nowadays,
there are
too
many
people,
everyone
wanting
your
job,
the population
explosion
and
all
the rest
of
it.
But
to
do
it psychologically
-
not
giving
up
your
wife,
your
clothes,
your
husband,
your
children
or
your
house,
but
inwardly
-
is
not
to
be
attached
to
anything.
In
that
there is
great
beauty.
After
all,
it is
love,
isn't
it?
Love
is
not
attachment.
When
there is
attachment
there is
fear.
And
fear
inevitably
becomes
authoritarian,
possessive,
oppressive,
dominating.
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48:05
So
meditation
is
the understanding
of
life,
which
is
to
bring
about
order.
Order
is
virtue,
which
is
light;
this
light
is
not
to
be
lit
by
another,
however
experienced,
however
clever,
however
erudite,
however
spiritual.
Nobody
on
earth
or
in
heaven
can
light
that,
except
yourself,
in
your
own
understanding
and
meditation.
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48:41
To
die
to
everything
within
oneself!
For
love
is
innocent
and
fresh,
young
and
clear.
Then,
if
you have
established
this
order,
this
virtue,
this
beauty,
this
light
in
yourself,
then
you can
go
beyond.
This
means
that
the mind,
having
laid
order,
which
is
not
of
thought,
the mind
then
becomes
utterly
quiet,
silent
-
naturally,
without
any
force,
without
any
discipline.
And
in
the light
of
that
silence
all
actions
can
take
place,
the daily
living,
from
that
silence.
And
if
one
were
lucky
enough
to
have
gone
that
far,
then
in
that
silence
there is
quite
a different
movement,
which
is
not
of
time,
which
is
not
of
words,
which
is
not
measurable
by
thought,
because
it is
always
new;
it is
that
immeasurable
something
that
man
has
everlastingly
sought.
50:36
But
you have
to
come
upon
it;
it cannot
be
given
to
you.
It is
not
the word,
nor
the symbol,
those
are
destructive.
But
for
it to
come,
you must
have
complete
order,
beauty,
love,
therefore
you must
die
to
every
thing
that
you know
psychologically,
so
that
your
mind
is
clear,
not
tortured;
so
that
it sees
things
as
they
are,
both
outwardly
and
inwardly.
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