Krishnamurti Existuje v tomto šialenom svete úplné konanie?

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SM72T2 - Existuje v tomto šialenom svete úplné konanie?

2. Verejné vystúpenie
Santa Monica, USA
19 marec 1972

0:21	Krishnamurti:	Krishnamurti:
	We were saying yesterday morning	Vиera som hovorili o tom,

0:28	that in a world	ћe vo svete, ktorэ je takэ
	that is so insane and confused,	blбznivэ a zmдtenэ,

0:36	where there are so many	kde je toѕko veѕa
	religious leaders and politicians,	nбboћenskэch vodcov a politikov,

0:44	where there is so much violence,	kde je toѕko veѕa nбsilia,

0:50	sorrow	smъtku,

0:54	and a sense of utter despair,	a pocit ъplйho zъfalstva,

1:03	it seems natural	vyzerб normбlne to,

1:06	that one should become	ћe иlovek by mal byќ
	a light to oneself.	svetlom sebe samйmu.

1:14	And it is possible only	A to je moћnй len vtedy,

1:18	when we understand	keп pochopнme naљe podmienenie
	our conditioning

1:23	and go beyond it.	a prekonбme ho.

1:25	That is what we were, more or less,	To je to, o иom sme sa, viacmenej,
	talking about yesterday morning.	vиera rozprбvali.

1:35	And I think we ought to continue	A myslнm si, ћe by sme mali pokraиovaќ
	where we left off.

1:38		tam, kde sme prestali.

1:48	We have broken up life	Rozdelili sme svet na
	as the outer and the inner.	vonkajљн a vnъtornэ.

1:57	The outer existence,	Vonkajљia existencia,
	which demands certain activities,	ktorб si vyћaduje urиitй aktivity,

2:02	certain labours, jobs,	urиitъ prбcu, zamestnanie,

2:07	and an inward life	a vъtornэ ћivot,

2:11	which is also in turmoil,	ktorэ je tieћ v chaose,
	in confusion.	v zmдtku.

2:18	When one is concerned	Keп sa иlovek bojн o prбcu
	with having a job in this world,	v tomto svete,

2:26	in this insane society,	v tejto љialenej spoloиnosti,

2:31	and what is one to do	a иo mб иlovek robiќ
	– if one has a job –	- ak mб prбcu -

2:37	one is contributing	ako to prispieva
	to further confusion,	k пalљiemu zmдtku,

2:44	further misery,	пalљej biede,
	further insanity.	k пalљiemu љialenstvu.

2:51	And inwardly,	Ale vnъtorne,

2:54	we want to live	chceme ћiќ
	a different kind of life,	ћivot inэ ,

2:57	separated from the outer,	oddelenэ od vonkajљieho.

3:03	a life that is fairly peaceful,	Ћivot, ktorэ
		je dosќ kѕudnэ,

3:08	clear, rational,	jasnэ, zmyselnэ,

3:13	without too much conflict,	bez mnohэch konfliktov,

3:18	and perhaps find something,	a moћno nбjsќ nieиo,

3:23	come upon something	prнsќ na nieиo,
	which is not corruptible,	иo nie je skorumpovateѕnй,

3:28	which is not put together	иo nevziљlo z rozmэљѕania
	by thought or by a cunning mind.	alebo z prefнkanej mysle.

3:34	So we separate the two,	Takћe tieto dve veci rozdeѕujeme,

3:38	the inner and the outer,	na vonkajљie, vnъtornй,

3:46	and yet we don't see	a napriek tomu nevidнme
	– unfortunately, I think –	- naneљќastie, myslнm si -

3:50	that they are interrelated.	ћe spolu sъvisia.

3:56	That is,	Znamenб to: existuje v spoloиnosti,
	is there a total action	nejakб totбlna иinnosќ

4:03	in a society	ktorб nie je tak
	that is so corrupt, polluted,	skorumpovanб, skazenб,

4:08	so utterly insane?	takб ъplne љialenб?

4:13	Is there a total action	Existuje ъplnб иinnosќ

4:16	which corresponds	ktorб sъvisн
	both to the inner and to the outer?	aj s vnъtornэm aj s vonkajљнm?

4:22	And to merely be concerned	A pъho sa obбvaќ

4:27	whether we should pay a tax	иi by sme mali platiќ daт

4:31	or be conscripted	alebo mali narukovaќ

4:34	– or is it called draft here,	- alebo ako sa v tejto krajine
	in this country –	volб -

4:38	and so on, as though that	a tak, akoby to bolo
	was something separate,	nieиo separovanй,

4:43	apart from	oddelenй
	our innermost desires,	od naљich najtajnejљнch tъћob,

4:50	longings,	oиakбvanн,
	hopes, fears, pleasures.	nбdejн, strachov, poteљenн.

4:58	And as we said, they are interrelated,	A ako sme povedali, sъvisia spolu.
	the two are not separate.	Tie dve veci nie sъ oddelenй.

5:03	And to separate them	A oddeliќ ich je
	is another form of insanity,	пalљia forma љialenstva,

5:15	because	pretoћe инm viac do hеbky
	the more inwardly one is aware,	si to иlovek uvedomuje,

5:22	concerned with the understanding	robн si starosti s pochopenнm
	of the totality of existence,	totality existencie,

5:27	not a particular segment of it,	nie len jednotlivэm segmentom,

5:31	then that concern,	potom tб obava,

5:36	that awareness,	to uvedomovanie si,

5:39	brings about an action	prinбљa zmenu v иinnosti.
	in the outer	Vo vonkajљej,

5:44	which is not	ktorй nie je v protiklade
	contradictory to the inner.	s vnъtornou.

5:49	So we are asking,	Takћe sa pэtame:
	is there a total action	existuje takб иinnosќ,

5:58	which will be sane	ktrб bude rozumnб
	in an insane world,	v tomto љialenom svete,

6:04	which will be rational	ktorб bude rozumnб
	in an irrational world,	v nerozumnom svete,

6:10	which will bring about order	ktorб vnesie poriadok

6:15	out of confusion,	do neporiadku,

6:20	which will give	ktorб nбm dб zmysel radosti
	a sense of joy and beauty to existence,	a krбsy v existencii,

6:28	which at present	ktorъ teraz
	has none whatsoever.	vфbec nemбme?

6:35	So in considering this question,	Takћe uvaћujъc nad touto otбzkou

6:41	which is,	ktorб je,
	is there a total action,	иi existuje takб иinnosќ,

6:45	an action	иinnosќ, ktorб nie je
	which is not inner or outer,	ani vnъtornб ani vonkajљia,

6:49	but an action	ale иinnosќ ktorб
	that is totally related,	s tэm sъvisн,

6:52	totally complete,	totбlne, ъplne,

6:55	so that	tak, ћe keп nastane vonkajљia
	when there is an outward action,	иinnosќ,

6:58	it is as complete	ja takб ъplnб
	as the inward action?	ako vnъtornб иinnosќ?

7:06	You know,	Viete, toto
	this has been a problem	je problйm,

7:11	that confronts all of us.	ktorэ konfrontuje nбs vљetkэch.

7:17	When the speaker	Keп reиnнk ide do Indie,
	goes to India and talks there,	a hovorн tam,

7:23	where there is so much poverty,	kde je tak veѕa chudoby,
	unemployment, overpopulation	nezamestnanosti, preѕudnenia:

7:29	– for one job there are probably	na jedno pracovnй miesto je
	10,000 people asking for that job,	10 000 uchбdzaиov,

7:33	looking –	ktorн hѕadajъ prбcu -

7:36	this problem	tento problйm sa stбva nesmierne
	becomes extraordinarily important:	dфleћitэm:

7:40	how to act so that	ako sa sprбvaќ, aby nenastal
	there is no contradiction,	rozpor?

7:47	how to act	Ako sa prбvaќ tak, aby bol иlovek
	so that one brings sanity,	rozumnэ,

7:54	how to act so that	ako sa spбvaќ tak, aby sa
	the social structure is changed,	sociбlna љtruktъra zmenila,

8:00	transformed.	pretransformovala sa.

8:03	This question	Tъto otбzku

8:05	must be asked by each one of us.	si musн poloћiќ kaћdэ z nбs.

8:10	I am sure	Som si istэ, ћe vљetci
	we are all asking this question,	si kladieme tъto otбzku,

8:13	not slurring over it,	neodbijete ju,

8:15	not trying to gloss over	nesnaћнte sa zakrэvaќ
	the complications of it,	komplikбcie okolo toho,

8:22	but what is one	ale иo mб иlovek
	– if one is young – to do?	- ak je mladэ - robiќ?

8:34	To answer that question	Aby sme si zodpovedali
		tъto otбzku,

8:38	one must go	иlovek musн нsќ
	very much more deeply	veѕmi do hеbky,

8:42	than what is action	ako - akб je иinnosќ
	in relation to a particular issue,	vo vzќahu ku konkrйtnej otбzke,

8:52	whether one	иi by mal иlovek
	should join the army,	vstъpiќ do armбdy,

8:55	be conscripted, drafted,	byќ odvedenэ, narukovaќ,

8:59	what kind of job	akъ prбcu by
	one should have, and so on.	mal иlovek maќ, atп.

9:05	To go into this problem	Aby sme si prebrali
	very deeply,	problйm do hеbky,

9:12	and it is only in the understanding	a je to len v pochopenн
	of the fullness of the problem	plnosti problйmu,

9:18	that the superficial problem	ћe povrchnэ problйm
	is answered.	bol zodpovedanэ.

9:22	But if you merely deal	Ak sa zaoberбte iba
	with the superficial problem	povrchnэm problйmom,

9:26	superficially,	povrchne,

9:30	then it leads	vedie to k oveѕa vдиљiemu
	to much more confusion, conflict	zmдtku, konfliktu,

9:35	and misery and mischief.	k biede a k nepleche.

9:39	So,	Takћe v uvaћovanн nad
	in considering this question:	touto otбzkou:

9:45	is there a total action	existuje nejakб иinnosќ,

9:51	which will be harmonious	ktorб bude harmonickб

9:54	outwardly and inwardly, sane,	navonok aj v nъtorne, mъdra,

10:00	completely rational, healthy?	ъplne racionбlna, zdravб?

10:14	Are you waiting for me	Иakбte na mтa, aby som vбm
	to answer this question?	zodpovedal tъto otбzku?

10:22	I see you are.	Vidнm, ћe бno!

10:26	Please don't wait,	Prosнm, neиakajte,

10:30	because we are going to share	pretoћe sa ideme na tento problйm
	together this problem.	pozrieќ spoloиne.

10:35	The speaker	Reиnнk ho moћno vyrieљil sбm.
	may have solved it for himself.

10:46	The speaker is probably a beggar	Reиnнk je moћno ћobrбkom
	and that is good enough for him.	a jemu to staин.

10:55	And if you are waiting	A ak иakбte na odpoveп od
	for an answer from the speaker	reиnнka,

11:03	to see how you can apply	aby ste videli ako mфћete
	what he says to a particular problem,	pouћiќ

11:07		to иo hovorн
		na tento konkrйtny problйm,

11:10	or understand the total problem	alebo porozumieќ celйmu problйmu
	according to his answer,	podѕa toho, иo hovorн,

11:20	then you are not sharing.	potom to nezdieѕate.

11:24	Then you are merely accepting	Potom iba akceptujete пalљн
	another formula, another concept,	nбvod, пalљн koncept,

11:30	as you have accepted	ako ste uћ akceptovali mnohй
	so many formulas and concepts.	nбvody a koncepty.

11:37	And a concept is not an answer.	A koncept nie je odpoveп.

11:45	An idea is not an answer.	Nбvodd nie je odpoveп.

11:51	A conglomeration of beliefs	Mnoћstvo presvedиenн nie je
	is not an answer	odpoveп

11:55	to a fundamental question	na zбkladnъ otбzku
	as this.	na toto.

12:03	So, we are going to share	Takћe ideme tento problйm
	together the problem.	zdieѕaќ spoloиne.

12:07	That is, we are together,	To znamenб ћe
		spolu,

12:11	sensitively,	citlivo,
	hesitantly and rationally	opatrne a racionбlne,

12:18	examine this problem.	skъmame tento problйm.

12:21	And in the understanding	A v snahe chбpaќ
	of the problem together	tento problйm spoloиne,

12:25	you will find	prнdete na tъ odpoveп sami,
	the answer for yourself.

12:28	Which is far more important	иo je oveѕa dфleћitejљie, ako keп
	than being told what to do,	vбm poviem, иo robiќ,

12:34	what is the total action.	иo je totбlna иinnosќ.

12:38	So we are not concerned	Takћe sa nezaoberajte
	with formulas or conclusions,	nбvodmi alebo zбvermi,

12:45	concepts,	konceptami, na ktorэch ste
	on which you have been brought up.	vyrбstli.

12:53	The other day	Minule

12:55	someone asked, 'What do you do?'	sa ma niekto spэtal: "Иo robнte?"

13:04	and I didn't know how to reply	a ja som nevedel,
		ako mбm odpovedaќ

13:08	and I said,	a povedal som: "Celkom presne
	I don't quite know what I do.	neviem, иo robнm.

13:13	I am some kind of talker,	Sonm nejakэ druh reиnнka,
	philosopher,	filozofa.",

13:17	you know,	viete, a tak.
	all that kind of stuff.

13:21	'And what is your philosophy?'	"A akб je vaљa filozofia?"

13:26	I said, it isn't my philosophy.	Povedal som, ћe to nie je moja
		filozofia.

13:29	Philosophy means	Filozofia znamenб
	the love of truth,	lбska k pravde,

13:33	which is not yours or mine.	ktorб nie je ani moja, ani vaљa.

13:37	Love of truth.	Lбska k pravde.

13:41	And here is the same problem.	A tu je ten istэ
		problйm.

13:45	We are concerned with something	Zaoberбme sa nieинm
	extraordinarily important.	mimoriadne dфleћitэm.

13:52	And there are very few	A je len pбr
	serious people in the world,	ѕudн na svete,

13:58	very few who will	veѕmi mбlo, ktorн vyrieљia tento
	tackle this problem completely.	problйm ъplne.

14:06	And in a world surrounded by	A vo svete, ktorэ je obklopenэ
	people who are not interested,	ѕudmi ktorэch to nezaujнma,

14:12	who are not serious,	ktorн to neberъ vбћne,

14:15	who are completely concerned	ktorэch zaujнma jedine
	with their own pleasures,	ich vlastnй poteљenie,

14:19	with their own amusements,	s vlastnэmi zбbavkami,
	with their own satisfactions,	s vlastnэm uspokojenнm,

14:27	and a few that might be	a pбr ѕuпmi, ktorн sa o to
	interested, deeply,	zauнmajъ do hѕbky -

14:35	what are they to do	иo majъ takн ѕudia robiќ

14:39	in a world	vo svete
	that is so superficial,	ktorэ je takэ povrchnэ,

14:42	so casual, so thoughtless?	takэ obyиajnэ, takэ bezohѕadnэ?

14:48	So there are these two problems,	Takћe sъ tu tieto
		dva problйmy,

14:52	which is,	ktorй sъ: иo mб иlovek,
	what is a serious person to do,	ktorэ to myslн vбћne, robiќ,

15:00	concerned with a total action,	ktorэ sa starб o celkovъ иinnosќ,

15:03	and what is that serious person,	a иo mб seriуzny иlovek
		robiќ,

15:06	what is his relationship	akэ je jeho vzќah k
	with the vast majority of the world,	drvivej vдиљine sveta,

15:12	of the human beings	k ѕudskэm bytostiam,

15:14	which want a society as it is	ktorэ chce spoloиnosќ takъ, akб je,
	with slight modifications?	s nepatrnэmi zmenami?

15:23	They want complete security –	Chcъ ъplnъ bezpeиnosќ -

15:25	it doesn't matter	nezaujнma ich, иo sa
	what happens to any others.	stane s ostatnэmi.

15:31	They want a way of life	Chcъ takэ spфsob ћivota, ktorэ
	that will give them their satisfaction,	im zabezpeин spokojnosќ,

15:40	their fulfilment	ich naplnenie
	and all that business.	a celъ tъ vec.

15:44	So there are these two problems.	Takћe, sъ tu tieto dva problйmy.

15:50	Now, to go into this question	Teraz, aby sme sa dostali
	very deeply,	k tэmto problйmom do hеbky,

15:57	one has to understand	иlovek musн pochopiќ,
	what is the motive,	akэ je motнv,

16:03	what is the drive, the energy	иo je pohonom, tou energiou,

16:09	that is behind our action.	ktorб je za naљim konanнm.

16:13	The action of a man	Konanie иloveka, ktorэ
	who is trying to seek	sa snaћн hѕadaќ,

16:18	a total action which corresponds	ъplnй konanie s odpoveпami,
	both to the inner and the outer,	aj s vnъtornэmi aj s vonkajљнmi,

16:24	in which there is no contradiction	v ktorэch nie je rozpor
	and therefore no conflict?	a preto ani konflikt?

16:30	What is the essence	Иo je podstatou
	of this drive?	tohto pohбтania?

16:46	Is it not	Nie je to
	– please, I am enquiring,	- prosнm, pэtam sa,

16:49	I don't say it is or it is not,	nehovorнm- takto to je, takto
		to nie je ,

16:52	we are together	sme tu, aby sme ten problйm pochopili
	understanding this problem –	spoloиne -

16:58	is it not the drive	nie je tэm pohonom
	and the search for pleasure,	hѕadanie poteљenia,

17:09	the pursuit of pleasure?	nahбтanie sa za poteљenнm?

17:14	Please, don't answer me.	Prosнm, neodpovedajte mi!
	Just look at it.	Len sa na to pozrite.

17:18	We are going to explore it.	Ideme to preskъmaќ.
	This is just the beginning of it.	Toto je len zaиiatok.

17:27	Our society is based on this,	Naљa spoloиnosќ je zaloћenб

17:32	on the pursuit of pleasure,	na nahбтanн sa zabбbavou,

17:35	continuity of pleasure,	pokraиovanн zбbavy

17:40	through position, power,	skrz postavenie, moc,

17:44	through money, through sex.	skrz peniaze, skrz sex.

17:52	We are not saying	Nehovorнme, ћe
	that pleasure is wrong,	zбbava je zlб!

17:58	we are not becoming puritanical.	Nezaиnime byќ puritбni.

18:02	We are examining.	Skъmame to.

18:06	And to examine very clearly	A aby sme to preskъmali dopodrobna

18:09	you must be free	musнte sa oslobodiќ od svojej
	from your puritanical upbringing	puritбnskej vэchovy,

18:14	or your Victorian upbringing	alebo Viktoriбnskej vэchovy,

18:16	or whatever your upbringing is.	alebo akъ vэchovu to mбte.

18:21	There must be	Nato, aby ste sa pэtali, potrebujete
	freedom to enquire,	byќ slobodnн,

18:26	and therefore	a preto tam nesmъ byќ ћiadne
	there must be no previous conclusion	predchбdzajъce zбvery,

18:29	or come to any conclusion	alebo prнsќ k zбveru
	as you are enquiring.	keп sa pэtate!

18:42	So,	Takћe, nie je vдиљina
	is not most of our action,	z nбљho konania,

18:49	both outwardly and inwardly,	aj navonok aj vъtorne

18:54	based on this pursuit	zaloћenб na nahбтanнm sa za,
	in subtle or gross form,	v jemnej alebo hrubej forme

19:01	of pleasure?	za poteљenнm?

19:07	And what is the difference	A akэ je rozdiel

19:10	between pleasure,	medzi poteљenнm,
	enjoyment and joy?	pфћitkom a radosќou?

19:22	We have to understand	Musнme pochopiќ tieto
	these three things.	tri veci.

19:28	When you walk in a wood	Keп sa prechбdzate po lese

19:32	or along the beach,	alebo po plбћi,

19:36	there is great delight,	tam je veѕkб radosќ,
	there is great pleasure:	veѕkй poteљenie:

19:39	the beauty of the land,	krбsa zeme,
	the trees, the birds,	stromy, vtбky,

19:42	the light on the water,	svetlo na vode,
	the sunset among the hills,	zбpad slnka medzi kopcami,

19:48	that peculiar atmosphere	typickб atmosfйra ktorб
	that comes about	prichбdza

19:51	when the sun is setting.	vtedy, keп slnko zapadб.

19:56	When you see in the sky	Keп na veиernej oblohe
	the evening star,	uvidнte hviezdu

20:02	that is great pleasure,	je to veѕkй poteљenie,

20:04	there is great joy in that.	je v tom veѕa radosti.

20:10	What is wrong with it?	Иo je na tom zlй?

20:14	The other day,	Minule,

20:16	a so-called teacher, a guru,	takzvanэ uиiteѕ, guru,

20:24	said, when it was pointed out	povedal, niekto poukбzal na to,
	what a beautiful town this was,	akй bolo toto prekrбsne mesto,

20:28	what a lovely tree that was,	akэ tam bol peknэ strom,

20:30	he said, 'I haven't time	povedal: "Nemal som иas
	to bother with all that.'	sa s tэm zaoberaќ."

20:38	So what is wrong	Иo je zlй na tom,

20:41	to look at a beautiful thing	pozeraќ sa na peknъ vec,

20:45	or to eat a perfect food	alebo jesќ perfektnй jedlo
	like mango	ako mango,

20:50	or an orange,	alebo pomaranи?
	what is wrong with it?	Иo je na tom zlй?

20:53	There is pleasure in it.	Je v tom radosќ.

20:59	But when you insist	Ale keп naliehate na tom, ћe musнte
	that you must eat mango or orange	jesќ mango alebo pomaranи,

21:04	or have the beautiful sunset	alebo maќ prekrбsny zбpad slnka
	every day of your life,	kaћdэ deт vбљho ћivota,

21:10	and pursue it, subtly,	a sledovaќ ho, jemne,
	consistently, doggedly,	dфsledne, zarputilo,

21:18	then that pursuit	vtedy to sledovanie
	brings about an imbalance.	prinбљa nerovnovбhu.

21:28	And when you are imbalanced	A keп ste v nerovnovбhe,

21:34	there is neurotic,	nastбva neurotickй,
	contradictory action.	protichodnй konanie.

21:40	That is one of the facts	Toto je jeden z faktov
	of this pursuit of pleasure.	nahбтania sa za poteљenнm.

21:46	Haven't you noticed this?	Nevљimli ste si to?

21:54	And in the pursuit of this pleasure	A v nahбтanн sa za poteљenнm, nie
	there is not only imbalance,	je len nerovnovбha,

22:00	contradictory action,	protichodnй sprбvanie,
	neurotic activity,	neurotickб иinnosќ,

22:06	but also behind it	ale tieћ je za nнm
	there is a sense of contradiction.	pocit rozporu.

22:16	You are never enjoying anything,	Nikdy si niи neuћнvate,

22:22	but wanting to have more of it.	ale chcete toho eљte viac.

22:30	Have you not noticed all this?	Vљimli ste si to?

22:36	When you are seeking power,	Keп hѕadбte moc,

22:39	as most people are,	ako mnohн ѕudia,

22:42	whether it is power	иi uћ je to moc v malэch skupinбch
	in a small group or in a family,	alebo v rodine,

22:47	you know,	veп viete, иo sa deje v Amerike?
	what is going on in America

22:51	– Women's Lib, is it? –	-Ћenskй hnutie, nie? -

22:58	power,	Moc,

23:01	domination,	nadvlбda,

23:03	assertion,	uplatтovanie si nбrokov,

23:07	aggression,	agresia,

23:09	all these are forms of pleasure.	vљetky tieto formy poteљenia.

23:15	And society in which we live	A spoloиnosќ v ktorej ћijeme,

23:18	encourages	povzbudzuje
	this kind of pleasure.	tento druh poteљenia.

23:26	That is,	To jest,
	the pursuit of pleasure.	nahбтanie sa za poteљenнm.

23:30	The pursuit of pleasure	Toto nahбтanie sa za poteљenнm
	is entirely different from enjoyment.	je ъplne odliљnй od radosti.

23:40	When you see	Keп vidнte prekrбsny zбpad
	a beautiful sunset, you enjoy it.	slnka, teљнte sa z neho.

23:49	The colour,	Z farby,

23:52	the light,	svetla,

23:54	the purity of an evening	иistoty veиera
	– perhaps not in Los Angeles –	- moћno nie v Los Angeles -

24:05	and the beauty of it	a tб krбsa je
	is really quite extraordinary,	skutoиne neobyиajnб,

24:08	and you enjoy it.	a vy sa teљнte.

24:11	That enjoyment	Tб radosќ je premoћenб
	is taken over by thought,	mysѕou,

24:17	and thought says,	a tб myseѕ hovorн:
	I must have it tomorrow,	" Musнm to maќ zajtra zase"

24:22	and you pursue that,	a vy to hѕadбte,
	then it becomes pleasure.	potom sa to stane poteљenнm.

24:35	So,	Takћe, bez pochopenia poteљenia,
	without understanding pleasure,

24:42	enjoyment,	radovania sa,

24:45	and that	a tej zvlбљtnej veci
	strange thing called joy,	zvanej radosќ,

24:51	which cannot be invited	ktorб sa nedб vynбjsќ,

24:54	– you cannot practice a system	- nedб sa praktizovaќ systйm
	in order to be joyous,	aby ste boli radostnн,

25:01	or go to school or college,	alebo нsќ do љkoly иi
		na univerzitu,

25:03	or attend groups, therapy,	alebo navљtevovaќ kurzy,
		terapie,

25:07	or whatever you do	alebo иo to robнte v tejto
	in this strange country,	zvlбљtnej krajine,

25:14	analysed in order to be joyous,	aby vбs analyzovali aby ste
		boli veselн,

25:18	you are just being insane –	ste blбzni -

25:22	joy comes	radosќ prichбdza, keп nie ste.
	when you are not there.

25:29	When you	Keп, so vљetkэmi
	– with all your problems,	vaљimi problйmami,

25:32	with your miseries,	trбpeniami,
	with your pettiness –	s maliиkosќami

25:35	is nonexistent,	neexistujete,
	then that happens.	vtedy sa to stane.

25:38	Haven't you noticed it	Vљimli ste si to?
	for yourself?

25:43	When you are not	Keп nemyslнte na seba,
	thinking about yourself,

25:45	your wife,	vaљu ћenu,
	your problems, you know,	vaљe problйmy, viete,

25:52	when the mind is quiet,	keп je myseѕ pokojnб,
	not concerned, has no problem,	nesъstredenб, nemб ћiadny problйm,

25:56	suddenly	nбhle prнde tбto
	this strange thing comes,	podivnб vec.

26:01	a total sense of harmony,	Uplnэ pocit harmуnie,

26:04	of complete unity	totбlnej jednoty
	with everything.	so vљetkэm.

26:09	And that brings about	A to prinбљa nesmierny
	a tremendous sense of ecstasy, joy.	pocit slasti, radosti.

26:17	So there are these three things:	Takћe tu mбme tieto tri veci:

26:20	joy,	radosќ,

26:23	real enjoyment,	ozajstnй radovanie sa,

26:27	which is prevented	ktorйmu je zabrбnenй,
	when you are pursuing pleasure.	keп hѕadбte poteљenie.

26:33	So without	Takћe bez toho, aby sme sa na tento
	going into this problem completely,	problйm pozreli kompletne,

26:38	not theoretically,	nie teoreticky,
	not in abstraction,	abstraktne,

26:45	not linguistically,	nie verbбlne,
	which is intellectually,	иo znamneй intelektuбlne,

26:50	but actually observing yourself,	ale v skutoиnosti aby ste
		skъmali seba,

26:58	how you are	ako sa neustбle ћeniete
	constantly pursuing this thing.	za touto vecou.

27:06	And encouraged	A pohбтanн
	by a commercial society,	komerиnou spoloиnosќou,

27:14	and you say to yourself,	hovorнte si:

27:16	How am I to act	Ako sa mбm chovaќ v tomto
	in this insane world,	blбznivom svete,

27:24	in this commercial world,	v tomto
		komerиnom svete,

27:28	so that I neither	tak aby som nepodporoval
	encourage this society,	tъto spoloиnosќ,

27:33	and yet I have to live in it,	v ktorej napriek tomu musнm ћiќ,

27:39	and so	a tak sa nestarбme o podstatnй.
	we go off on a tangent.

27:44	But whereas, if you enquired,	Ale ak sa pэtate,

27:49	as we are doing now,	ako sa pэtame teraz,
	into this question of action,	na otбzku иinnosti,

27:58	and action	a иinnosќ je vћdy "teraz",
	is always in the present,

28:00	not in the future	nie v budъcnosti alebo
	or in the past.	v minulosti.

28:05	Action means that, the doing,	Иinnosќ znamenб "robenie",

28:08	not having done or going to do.	nie "urobenй" alebo "idem urobiќ."

28:20	Now, when you and I	Teraz, keп sa na to
	together look at this,	pozrieme spoloиne,

28:28	are we looking	pozerбme sa na to
	at the problem verbally?	verbбlne?

28:37	You understand	Rozumiete, иo myslнm tэm
	what I mean – verbally.	"verbбlne?"

28:42	Because I have used	Pretoћe som pouћil pбr slov,
	certain words

28:47	which may evoke in you	ktorй vo vбs mфћu vyvolaќ
	certain responses,	istй reakcie,

28:52	and according to those responses	a podѕa tэchto reakciн
	you are looking at the problem.	sa pozerбte na problйm.

28:59	Please, listen to this.	Poиъvajte, prosнm!

29:03	So you are verbally stimulated	Takћe verbбlne ste povzbudenн
	to look at the problem,	poиъvaќ tento problйm,

29:10	and therefore you are stimulated	a preto ste stimulovanн
	by the speaker to look,	reиnнkom, aby ste sa na to pozreli,

29:17	but you are not actually looking	ale v skutoиnosti sa nepozerбte,
	– you are stimulated.	- ste stimulovanн.

29:24	Which is entirely different	Иo je nieиo ъplne inй,
	from you actually looking at it	ako keп sa naozaj pozerбte

29:29	without any stimulation,	bez akejkoѕvek stimulбcie,
	observing.	skъmania.

29:40	So, if you observe non-verbally,	Takћe, ak pozorujete neverbбlne,

29:49	without any conclusion,	bez akэchkoѕvek zбverov,

29:54	that is, conclusion being	to jest, zбvery sъ verbбlne
	verbal images which you have built	predstavy, ktorй ste si vybudovali

30:01	or which have been handed to you,	alebo ktorй vбm boli podanй,

30:03	and through those	a cez tieto verbбlne zбvery
	verbal conclusions you look.	sa pozerбte.

30:12	So, if you look either through	Takћe, ak sa pozerбte cez verbбlne
	a verbal stimulation of another	alebo inй stimuly,

30:19	or through your own conclusions,	alebo cez vlastnй zбvery,

30:27	a verbal image that you have,	tб verbбlna predstava
		ktorъ mбte,

30:29	then you are	vtedy sa v skutoиnosti
	actually not participating	nepodieѕate

30:36	in observing	na skъmanн,
	what is actually going on.	ktorй sa v tom momente deje.

30:41	That is,	To jest, nepozerбte sa
	you are not facing facts.	na fakty.

30:46	You are facing facts through	Pozerбte sa na fakty skrz
	a series of ideas or conclusions.	kopec predstбv a zбverov.

30:55	Am I making myself clear?	Som zrozumiteѕnэ?

30:58	Because this is rather important,	Pretoћe toto je dфsќ dфleћitй,
	if you don't mind.	ak vбm to nevadн.

31:05	Which is,	To znamenб,

31:07	how do you look	ako sa pozerбte na tъto
	at this question of action,	otбzku иinnosti,

31:17	the motive behind that action,	motнv ktorэ je za иinnosќou,

31:22	the persistent	neustбle sa hnanie
	pursuit of pleasure	za poteљenнm,

31:32	through power,	skrz moc,

31:36	with all its nuances,	so vљetkэmi odtieтami,
	subtleties,	drobnosќami,

31:44	through money,	skrz peniaze,

31:48	through sex	skrz sex
	– how do you look at it?	- ako sa na to pozerбte?

31:54	Are you an outsider looking in,	Pozerбte sa na to zvonka,

32:01	saying, yes, that is so,	keп hovorнte: "Бno, je to tak",

32:07	or the very act of looking	alebo sa na to skutoиne pozerбte
	is the total action?	a to je tб ozajstnб иinnosќ?

32:13	You get what I am saying?	Chбpete иo hovorнm?

32:22	Are we meeting each other?	Rozumieme si?

32:27	No, I am afraid not.	Nie, obбvam sa, ћe nie.

32:32	Look, sir,	Pozrite, pane!

32:34	total action implies	Ozajstnб иinosќ zahrтuje
	total awareness, listening – action.	ъplnъ pozornosќ, poиъvanie - иinnosќ.

32:42	It implies	Zahатa

32:46	a look, an action	nбhѕad, иinnosќ
	in which there is no division	v ktorej nie je rozdelenie

32:52	as the outer or inner,	na vonkajљie a vnъtornй,

32:54	acting according to a formula,	sprбvanie sa podѕa nбvodu,
	an idea, a concept or an image,	idei, konceptu alebo predstavy,

32:59	because	pretoћe tie prinбљajъ
	they bring about a division.	rozdelenie.

33:09	And to be free of them,	A aby sme sa od nich
		oslobodili,

33:12	so that you can look	tak aby ste sa vedeli
	at the whole problem.	pozrieќ na problйm v celku.

33:18	When you are capable	Ak ste schopnэ pozeraќ sa na problйm
	of looking at the total problem	v celosti,

33:21	then that very look	tak potom ten istэ pohѕad
	is the total action.	je ozajstnб иinnosќ.

33:35	Look,	Pozrite, nechajte,
	let me put it differently.	nech vбm to vysvetlнm inak!

33:37	I see we are not	Vidнm, ћe si nerozumieme.
	communicating with each other.

33:41	You know what	Viete, иo znamenб komunikбcia?
	communication means?

33:48	To share, to create,	Deliќ sa, tvoriќ,
	to work, to think together.	pracovaќ, myslieќ spoloиne.

33:55	If you are thinking	Ak myslнte na nieиo inй,
	of something else

33:57	and the speaker is going on	a reиnнk pokraиuje пalej
	talking about his own thing,	a hovorн si svoje,

34:01	then you are not	vtedy si nerozmiete.
	meeting each other.

34:10	We have a problem.	Mбme tu problйm.

34:13	I want to earn a livelihood,	Chcem zarбbaќ na ћivobitie.

34:15	I have to.	Musнm!

34:20	And I see,	A vidнm, ћe v tomto svete,
	in this world which is quite appalling,	ktorэ je celkom desivэ,

34:26	quite frightening,	celkom straљnэ,

34:31	and strangely mad,	a иudne blбznivэ,

34:34	I see that and I say,	vidнm to a hovorнm si:
	now, what am I to do?	"Иo mбm robiќ?

34:39	Shall I join them?	Mбm sa pridaќ?"

34:43	If I do, I shall continue	Ak sa pridбm, budem pokraиovaќ
	maintaining the insanity,	udrћiavanнm tohto љialenstva,

34:50	whether the insanity	иi uћ je to љialenstvo
	is in China or in Russia	v Инne иi v Rusku,

34:54	or in this country	alebo v tejto krajine,
	or anywhere else.	alebo hocikde inde.

34:57	We are not the sane people	Nie sme mъdri ѕudia

35:01	apart from those	na rozdiel od tэch
	insane people.	љialenэch ѕudн.

35:05	We are all in the same boat.	Vљetci sme na jednej lodi.

35:10	Now what am I to do?	"Tak teda, иo mбm robiќ?"

35:15	I have to earn a livelihood,	Musнm zarбbaќ na ћiobytie,
	I have to have a job.	musнm maќ prбcu.

35:22	Am I to be concerned	Mбm sa zaoberaќ len
	only with the job?	prбcou?

35:29	And seeing if I do, whatever I do,	A vidнm, ћe keп to robнm, hociиo
	I contribute to war.	robнm, prispievam tak k vojne.

35:39	So how shall I	Tak ako sa mбm vysporiadaќ s tэmto
	meet this problem?	problйmom?

35:42	And it is a very	A pre mтa je to
	vital problem to me.	podstatnэ problйm.

35:45	It isn't just	Nie je to len
	a superficial problem,	povrchnэ problйm,

35:48	it is my life.	je to mфj ћivot.

35:51	I have another 50 years to live.	Budem ћiќ пalљнch
		50 rokov.

35:55	I want to live rightly,	Chcem ћiќ sprбvne,
	I want to live decently,	chcem ћiќ sluљne.

35:58	I want to live with clarity,	Chcem ћiќ rozumne,
	with happiness,	so љќastнm,

36:04	not endlessly run after	nie neustбle behaќ za
	the analysts and the gurus	analistami a guruami,

36:08	and all the rest	a vљetkэmi
	of that business.	tэmi vecami.

36:12	So, what am I to do?	Takћe, иo mбm robiќ?

36:17	And I see	Vidнm,

36:20	action in my life	ћe konanie v mojom ћivote

36:27	is broken up.	je skazenй.

36:30	I am one thing	Pri jednej veci
	on one occasion,	som takэ,

36:34	another on another occasion,	pri пalљej inakљн,
	and so on – broken up, fragmented.	a tak пalej - rozlбmanэ na kъsky.

36:40	And my actions	A aj moje konanie
	are also fragmented:	je na kъsky.

36:44	my private life	Mфj sъkromэ ћivot
	and my public life.	a mфj verejnэ ћivot.

36:52	My private life,	Mфj sъkromnэ ћivot, so vљetkэm
	with all my pleasures, joys, agonies,	poteљenнm, radosќami, starosќami,

36:56	and public life	a verejnэ ћivot
	in which I comply,	ktorэ chcem naplniќ,

37:00	become a mechanic	sa stбva mechanickэm,
	or whatever it is.	иi akэ je?!

37:10	So I want to find out	Takћe chcem nбjsќ

37:12	an action	konanie, ktorй
	which is totally harmonious,	je ъplne harmonickй,

37:16	whole, complete,	ъplnй, kompletnй,
	which has meaning in my life.	ktorй mб v mojom ћivote zmysel.

37:25	And in enquiring	A pэtajъc sa,
	what is this action,	иo je to konanie,

37:31	I dig deeper	sa dostбvam hlbљie,

37:33	and I say,	a hovorнm, иo je za vљetkэm tэm
	what is behind every action in my life?	konanнm v mojom ћivote?

37:42	Every action.	Kaћdб иinnosќ.

37:46	The action that,	Tб иinnosќ, v ktorej,

37:48	in the outer world,	vo vonkajљom svete,
	I must have security,	musнm maќ bezpeиie,

37:52	a roof, clothes,	strechu, љaty,

37:57	and in getting the clothes,	a pri zнskavanн tэch љiat,
	the house,	domu,

38:01	all that, food,	toho vљetkйho, jedla,

38:03	I am contributing	prispievam k chaosu
	to the confusion of a society.	v spoloиnosti.

38:10	And inwardly,	Akб je moja vnъtornб
	what is my action?	reakcia?

38:14	Why am I broken up?	Preиo som zmдtenэ?

38:20	And I know	A viem, ћe toto
	when there is this fragmentation,	rozdelenie

38:23	it leads to insanity,	vedie k љialenosti,

38:26	contradiction,	k rozporu, konfliktu,
	conflict, misery, guilt, agony.	biede, pocitu viny, k mukбm.

38:36	So, in enquiring,	Takћe v hѕadanн,

38:38	I want to find out	chcem prнsќ na to, иo je to tб
	what is this total action.	totбlna reakcia.

38:42	How am I to find it?	Ako mбm na to prнsќ?

38:44	Not to be told by some professor	Nie, ћeby mi to povedal
		nejakэ profesor,

38:50	or a professional,	alebo odbornнk.

38:51	I want to find out for myself,	Chcem na to prнsќ sбm,
	because it is my life.	lebo je to mфj ћivot.

38:57	What is this total action?	Иo je toto totбlne konanie?

38:59	And I see the motive	A za tэm konanнm
	behind all action	vidнm motнv:

39:09	– fear, pleasure,	strach, poteљenie,

39:12	the pursuit of pleasure,	nahбтanie sa za poteљenнm,

39:15	and therefore in its wake,	a teda v jeho dфsledku
	the shadow of fear.	tieт strachu.

39:25	And I also want to enjoy life,	A tieћ sa chem teљiќ
		zo ћivota,

39:31	the extraordinary earth	z tejto neobyиajnej zeme
	in which we live.	na ktorej ћijeme.

39:34	It is our earth,	Je to naљa zem,

39:36	not your earth, the American	nie vaљa zem, americkб,
	or the Russian or the Indian.	alebo ruskб alebo indickб.

39:42	It is our earth to live in,	Je to naљa zem, na ktorej ћijeme,

39:44	to be taken delight in,	aby sme sa z nej teљili,

39:49	which we are spoiling,	ktorъ kazнme,
	corrupting, destroying.	korupmujeme, niинme.

39:56	And so,	A tak prнdem k tejto veci:
	then I come to this thing:

40:00	how do I look at this,	ako sa mбm na to pozrieќ,

40:08	look at this question	pozrieќ sa na tъto otбzku
	of pleasure, fear,	radosti, strachu,

40:13	and the persistent pursuit	a neustбleho hѕadania
	of pleasure?	poteљenia?

40:17	How do I look at it?	Ako sa mбm na to pozeraќ?

40:21	Do I look at it	Mбm sa na to pozrieќ
	as a verbal statement,	ako na verbбlne stanovisko,

40:28	a conclusion,	rieљenie,

40:31	or do I look at it completely,	alebo sa na to pozriem
		v celosti,

40:34	as when I do when I am hungry?	ako keп to robнm, keп som hladnэ?

40:38	There is no division	V takom stave nie je
	in that state,	ћiadne rozdelenie.

40:41	I am hungry,	Som hladnэ. Je tam okamћitб
	it is an immediate response, reaction,	odpoveп, reakcia,

40:47	which demands an action.	ktorб si vyћaduje konanie.

40:51	So do I	Takћe, pozerбm sa na to
	look at this non-verbally,	neverbбlne,

40:58	without any conclusion,	bez akэchkoѕvek zбverov,

41:02	without previous evaluation?	bez predchбdzajъceho hodnotenia?

41:06	Therefore	Pozerбm sa preto na to
	am I looking at it completely?	kompletne?

41:13	And that is where	A to je nбљ problйm!
	our problem is.

41:16	If I know	Ak budem vedieќ, ako sa na
	how to look at that thing completely	vec pozeraќ ъplne,

41:21	– my disharmony,	mфj disharmуnia,
	inwardly and outwardly,	vnъtorne i navonok,

41:26	the contradictory action	rozporuplnб иinnosќ
	inwardly and outwardly,	vnъtorne i navonok,

41:32	the fragmentation	fragmentбcia kaћdodnnйho
	of every kind of action of my life –	konania mфjho ћivota.

41:39	do I look at it	Pozerбm sa na to
	from the outside,	zvonku,

41:44	or there is no outsider at all	alebo tam vфbec neexistuje
	but only that,	vonkajљн pozorovateѕ ale je to

41:52	which is the fact.	iba fakt?

41:57	When there is only the fact,	Keп je tam len fakt,

42:00	you have total energy	mбte ъplnъ energiu
	to deal with that fact.	popasovaќ sa s tэm.

42:08	Then that fact undergoes	Potom tбto skutoиnosќ prejde
	a radical change.	radikбlnou zmenou.

42:13	It is only when you look	Je to len vtedy, keп sa pozriete
	at the fact, at 'what is'	nad fakt takэ, "akэ je".

42:20	with a conclusion,	Keп robнte zбvery, mбte verbбlnu
	with a verbal image, with a prejudice,	predstavu, predsudky,

42:23	then you are dissipating	potom v tom rozpore
	energy in contradiction.	rozptyѕujete energiu.

42:31	Whereas if you can	Zatiaѕиo, ak sa pozriete na fakt,
	look at the fact of 'what is'	"takэ akэ je",

42:35	then without any contradiction,	potom bez akйhokoѕvek rozporu,
	without any verbal conclusion,	bez slovnйho zбveru,

42:39	then you have tremendous action,	potom mбte obrovskй konanie,
	there is tremendous energy,	panuje tam obrovskб energia,

42:43	which is action,	иo znamenб, ћe иinnosќ
	which changes 'what is'.	zmenн to, "иo je".

42:47	Have you got it?	Chбpete?

42:51	Have some of you got it?	Pochopil to niekto z vбs?
	Audience: Yes.	Obecenstvo: Бno!

42:54	K: Thank God.	K: Vпaka bohu!

42:59	Now you see, sir,	teraz vidнte pane,

43:04	which means,	to znamenб,

43:07	a man who is seeking,	иlovek ktorэ vidн,
	understanding action,	rozumie konaniu,

43:13	does not seek power.	nehѕadб moc.

43:17	Right?	Ћe?

43:21	He needs money, but	Potrebuje peniaze, ale nepouћнva
	does not use money to derive pleasure,	peniaze aby si privodil poteљenie,

43:27	which is the 'me'	иo znamnenб "JA"
	that derives pleasure.	ktorй sa nahбтa za poteљenнm.

43:30	You understand?	Rozumiete?

43:35	And one of our major problems	A jeden z naљich hlavnэch problйmov
	in the world is sex, apparently.	vo svete je sex, oиividne.

43:47	Q: How are you doing?	Otбzka: Ako sa mбte?
	K: How am I doing?	K: Ako sa mбm?

43:52	I don't quite understand, sir.	Nerozumiem celkom, pane.

43:55	Q: How is your sex life?	O: Akэ je vбљ sexuбlny ћivot?

43:59	K: The gentleman wants to know	K: Ten dћentlmen chce vedieќ,
	how is my sex life.	akэ je mфj sexuбlny ћivot.

44:03	Good God.	Dobrэ boћe!

44:08	Please don't.	Prosнm nie!

44:15	Wait, sir,	Poиkajte pane!
	I will tell you later.	Poviem vбm neskфr,

44:22	If I want to tell you,	иi vбm chcem povedaќ,

44:24	and if it is worthwhile recording	иi je alebo nie je hodnй zaznamenaќ,
	what my sex life is or is not.	akэ je mфj sexuбlny ћivot.

44:30	We are concerned	My sa zaoberбme tэmto
	with this problem	problйmom,

44:35	– not somebody's problem,	nie niekoho problйmom,

44:38	our problem, your problem –	naљim, vaљim problйmom,

44:46	which is,	ktorэ je:

44:50	through sex,	cez sex,

44:52	the constant	neustбlym sa hnanнm za
	pursuit of pleasure,	poteљenнm,

45:05	and what happens there	иo sa stane
	when that is denied	keп je mi odopretэ

45:08	or when there is an uncertainty,	alebo keп je tam neistota,
	when there is conflict.	keп tam je konflikt.

45:13	There is an imbalance,	Je tam nerovnovбha,
	there is neurotic activity,	neurotickб aktivita,

45:17	inaction goes on.	deje sa neиinnosќ.

45:22	And as this society has made sex	A ako tбto spoloиnosќ urobila zo sexu
	as the greatest thing in life,	tъ najvдиљiu vec v ћivote,

45:31	even more	dokonca vдиљiu ako sъ vaљi
	than your gods and saviours,	bohovia a guruovia,

45:36	you have to answer it,	musнte si na to odpovedaќ,
	haven't you?	nie?

45:40	Why you as a human being	Preиo vy, ako ѕudskй
		bytosti

45:47	have made this such an issue.	ste z toho spravili
		takэ problйm?

45:54	And because	A pretoћe ste z toho spravili
	you have made this such an issue	takэ problйm,

45:58	it has become a problem,	stalo sa to problйmom,

46:05	a terrible thing	hroznou vecou, keп zostбrnete.
	when you get old.

46:11	We are always seeking, flirting.	Stбle hѕadбme, flirtujeme.

46:18	And so	A preto vy si to musнte zodpovedaќ,
	you have to answer, not I.	nie ja.

46:22	I have no problems	Ja s tэm nemбm
	about it at all.	najmenљн problйm.

46:29	I don't make it	Nerobнm si z toho najvдиљiu
	into the most important thing in life,	vec v ћivote,

46:37	as an escape from myself,	a neutekбm pred sebou,

46:40	or through sex	alebo skrz sex nehѕadбm nieиo
	find something extraordinarily noble,	extra fajnovй,

46:47	or some extraordinary state	alebo nejakэ extra stav
	of experience.	zбћitku.

46:52	Those are all rather childish,	To je vљetko dosќ
		detinskй,

46:58	immature.	nedospelй.

47:03	So,	Takћe to nie je o tom,
	it is not what my sex life is,	akэ je mфj sexuбlny ћivot,

47:07	but what your life is.	ale akэ ja vбљ ћivot.

47:09	Why are you concerned	Preиo sa starбte o reиnнka?
	about the speaker?

47:14	As I said yesterday,	Ako som vиera povedal,

47:16	the speaker is not	na reиnнkovi vфbec nezбleћн.
	of importance at all.

47:21	What is important is you,	Na иom zбleћн je vбљ ћivot,
	your life.	vy!

47:29	So when we give to pleasure	Takћe ak dбvame poteљeniu tъ
	the greatest importance	najvдиљiu dфleћitosќ,

47:37	in all our directions,	vo vљetkэch oblastiach,

47:44	and the pursuit of it,	a stбle sa za
		nнm nahбтame,

47:48	you must lead the most	musнte ћiќ ten najneobyиajnejљн,
	extraordinarily unbalanced life,	najnevyvбћenejљн ћivot -

47:53	which you do.	ktorэ aj ћijete.

48:00	And this unbalanced life	A tento nevyvбћenэ ћivot
	creates the insane society,	vytvбra chorъ spoloиnosќ,

48:05	which you have created.	ktorъ ste vytvorili.

48:14	So without understanding deeply	Takћe bez toho aby sme to
	and going beyond it,	pochopili a dostali sa z toho,

48:24	because we have	pretoћe fungujeme
	based our morality,	na morбlke,

48:28	our virtue,	cnosti, poteљenн,
	our conduct on pleasure.

48:34	You may sacrifice,	mфћete sa obetovaќ,

48:37	that sacrifice	ale tб obeta je
	is also a form of pleasure.	tieћ forma poteљenia.

48:43	So you have to see	Takћe musнte vidieќ celэ
	this whole phenomenon,	tento fenomenуm,

48:47	not as a fragment,	nie ako fragmet,

48:50	not in one particular direction	nie v jdenom smere,
	but as a whole.	ale ako celok.

48:58	And the seeing of the whole	A vidieќ to, je
	is the total action.	to ozajstnй konanie.

49:08	Have I talked enough?	Hovoril som dosќ?

49:12	Wait a minute, sir.	Poиkajte minъtku, pane!

49:24	You see,	Ako vidнte, nбboћenstvo
	religion plays a great part	zohrбva veѕkъ rolu

49:28	in the pursuit of pleasure.	v hnanн sa za poteљenнm.

49:30	I am sorry	Prepбиte, ћe som
	I forgot to include that.	na to zabudol.

49:35	Power, money, sex and God.	Moc, peniaze, sex a Boh.

49:40	Lovely combination, isn't it?	Milб kombinбcia, ћe?

49:47	Laugh at it	Kѕudne sa smejte
	– it is quite amusing.	- je to celkom zбbavnй.

49:58	Because religions,	Pretoћe nбboћenstvб, ako sъ
	as they have been organised,	organizovanй,

50:03	offer this.	toto ponъkajъ.

50:11	And the highest form of pleasure	Najvyљљia forma zбbavy
	and the pursuit of it,	a hnanie sa za тou,

50:15	the discipline, the various sanctions	disciplнna, rфzne tresty
	the religions have offered	ktorй nбboћenstvб ponъkajъ,

50:24	is in the line of this.	s tэm sъvisia.

50:28	So, to see all this together,	Tak, aby sme to videli spolu,

50:35	not as a religious life,	ako nбboћenskэ ћivot,
	a political life,	politickэ ћivot,

50:39	a life of a family,	rodinnэ ћivot,

50:41	life of just earning a job	ћivot kde ide o prбcu,

50:43	and going off to the beach	a нsќ na plбћ
	and lying in the sun	a leћaќ na slnku,

50:48	– those are all	to vљetko sъ иiastkovй
	fragmentary actions,	aktivity -

50:51	but to see	len aby sme videli
	this whole phenomena.	tento fenomйn.

50:55	Then if you see it,	Ak to vidнte,
	then you will act,	potom budete konaќ.

50:59	from the total perception,	Z celkovйho vnнmania,
	the particular.	konkrйtne.

51:03	You understand?	Rozumiete?

51:05	It is like seeing	Je to akoby ste sa pozerali
	a map of this country,	na mapu tejto krajiny.

51:09	the total map of this country,	Celъ mapu:

51:11	all the roads,	vљetky cesty, dediny, mestб.
	the villages, the towns.

51:17	Then you know	Vtedy viete, kde idete,
	where you are going

51:20	because	pretoћe ste videli celъ vec.
	you have seen the total thing.

51:26	And the mind	A pre myseѕ, ktorб toto vљetko
	that does not see this,	nevidн,

51:29	but merely concerned with a job	ale len sa zaoberб prбcou,

51:35	and trying to see how you can live	a pokъљa sa vidieќ, ako sa dб ћiќ
	in a society that is so corrupt,	v spoloиnosti, ktorб je skorumpovanб,

51:45	to him it becomes a torture.	sa to stбva utrpenнm.

51:53	You know,	Viete,

51:58	one has talked	иlovek o tom veѕa hovorн,
	so long about this,

52:05	not only about action,	nie len o konanн,

52:07	about seeing	o videnн
	the totality of life,	celistvosti ћivota,

52:13	the total movement of life.	ъplnom hnutн ћivota.

52:19	And to see that totally,	Aby to иlovek videl
		v celku,

52:21	one has to also look	иlovek sa musн pozrieќ aj
	at this extraordinary division	na toto zvlбљtne rozdelenie

52:25	between the conscious	medzi vedomнm
	as well as the unconscious.	ako aj nevedomнm.

52:29	Why we have created	Preиo sme si vytvorili toto
	that division,	rozdelenie,

52:33	why the analysts	preиo dali analytici

52:35	have given such extraordinary	tomu rozdeleniu takъ nesmiernu
	importance to this division.	dфleћitosќ?

52:39	I know it is very profitable,	Viem, ћe je to veѕmi vэnosnй,
	but why?	ale preиo?

52:43	Why this division?	Preиo toto delenie?

52:50	So is it possible	Takћe je moћnй,

52:52	– and we haven't time now	a teraz na tъto otбzku nemбme иas,
	to go into this question

52:56	of the unconscious	podvedomie
	and the conscious –	a vedomie -

52:59	why this division?	preиo toto delenie?

53:02	We have divided the world	Svet sme rozdelili
	religiously, politically,	nбboћensky, politicky,

53:09	beaurocratically,	birokraticky,
	technologically,	technicky,

53:14	nationally, religiously,	nбrodnostne, nбboћensky,

53:18	and in ourselves	a v nбs samэch
	we are fragmented.	sme rozdelenн.

53:23	Surely this fragmentation	Urиite tбto fragmentбcia,
	and this division	toto rozdelenie,

53:27	leads to great insanity,	vedie k nesmiernemu
		љialenstvu,

53:33	great contradiction	veѕkйmu rozporu
	in our own lives.	v naљich ћivotoch.

53:39	And being in contradiction,	A v takomto rozpore sa snaћнme
	we are trying to be very sane.	byќ normбlni.

53:48	Sanity can only come	Rozumnosќ sa mфћe dostaviќ
	when you have understood	len vtedy keп ste pochopili

53:53	– not somebody else helps	- nikto vбm nemфћe pomфcќ
	you to understand –	pochopiќ -

53:56	when you have understood yourself,	keп ste pochopili seba,
	your own contradiction,	vбљ rozpor,

54:00	are aware of it.	keп ste si toho vedomн.

54:02	Then out of that awareness	Potom z toho uvedomovania si
	comes sanity,	vzikne rozumnosќ,

54:05	and from that sanity	a z tej rozumnosti
	you earn a livelihood.	si zarobнte na ћivobytie.

54:13	You earn a job.	Zнskate prбcu.
	Then that sanity, that action,	Potom ten zdravэ rozum, tб иinnosќ,

54:18	will not be complied	nebude v sъlade so spoloиnosќou
	with a society that is corrupt.	ktorб je skorumpovanб.

54:27	You are bringing	Prinбљate nieиo
	something incorruptible.	neskorumpovanй.

54:32	That is the first thing	Toto je prvб vec
	to find out for ourselves.	na ktorъ prнdete.

54:40	And I assure you	A uisќujem vбs

54:43	– you don't want any assurance	- nechcite ћiadne uistenie
	from the speaker, sorry –	od reиnнka, prepбиte -

54:47	in this there is great beauty.	je v tom veѕkб krбsa -

54:54	It is love.	je to lбska!

54:59	Without that,	Bez nej,

55:01	without this quality of beauty,	bez tejto hodnoty krбsy,

55:04	quality of mind, quality of love,	vlastnosti mysle, vlastnosti lбsky,

55:07	your job, your gods,	vaљej prбce, vaљich bohov,

55:11	your reformation	vaљa zmena priniesќ
	of bringing about a new society	novъ spoloиnosќ,

55:14	has no meaning.	to nemб zmysel.

55:18	And you are the builder	Vy ste tvoriteѕom
	of a new society,	novej spoloиnosti,

55:20	therefore you as a human being	preto sa vy, ѕudskй bytosti
	have to change radically.	musнte zmeniќ radikбlne!

55:30	Now, perhaps	Teraz by ste sa moћno
	you would like to ask some questions.	chceli spэtaќ nejakй otбzky.

55:36	Just a minute, sir.	Minъtku pane!

55:39	Q: I am a devotee	O: Som stъpencom
	of Sri Ramana Maharshi,	Sri Ramana Maharshi,

55:43	and when he was asked	a keп sa ho spэtali na
	about the significance of Christ	vэznam Krista

55:50	and the illumination of St Paul,	a osvietenie Sv. Pavla,

55:55	he said, 'Illumination is absolute,	povedal:" Osvietenie nemб abslolъtne
	not associated with form.'	niи spoloиnй s formou."

56:04	After St Paul	Potom, иo bol sv.Pavol
	became Self-conscious,	stal osvietenэ,

56:10	he identified the illumination	porovnal osvietenie
	with Christ consciousness.	s vedomнm Krista.

56:18	Then (a man) said	Potom, ten иlovek povedal,

56:22	that St Paul	ћe sv.Pavol nemiloval
	was not a lover of Christ.	Krista.

56:28	And (he) said,	A povedal:

56:31	love or hatred is immaterial,	Lбska иi nenбvisќ nie je
		podstatnб,

56:35	the thought of Christ was there.	myseѕ Krista tam bola...

56:40	K: May I ask	K: Mфћem sa spэtaќ
	– sorry to interrupt you –	- prepбиte za preruљenie -

56:43	could you make it brief?	mohli by ste to skrбtiќ?

56:46	I have to repeat the question.	Musнm zopakovaќ otбzku.

56:49	Q: I would like to understand	O: Rбd by som pochopil,

56:53	why love or hatred	preиo bola lбska a nenбvisќ
	in this situation was immaterial?	v tejto situбcii nepodstanб?

57:01	K: The gentleman wants to know,	K: Ten pбn chce vedieќ,

57:07	first of all quoting St Paul	najprv citujъc sv.Pavla

57:15	who apparently	ktorэ bol zrejme
	had illumination,	osvietenэ,

57:21	and that illumination	a povedal, ћe jeho osvietenie
	he said was absolute,	bolo ъplnй,

57:25	but when he identified himself	ale keп sa s nieинm identifikoval,
	with something,

57:28	out of that identification	z tej identifikбcie
	grew hate and love	vznikla nenбvisќ a lбska,

57:32	– why this contradiction.	- preиo tieto rozpory?

57:35	K: Is that the question?	K: Je toto tб otбzka?
	Q: Yes.	O: Бno!

57:40	K: Look,	K: Pozrite sa,
	I know nothing about St Paul.	neviem niи o sv.Pavlovi.

57:46	Do you?	Vy viete?

57:50	And how important is it	A ako dфleћitй je to,
	what somebody else says,	иo povie niekto druhэ,

57:56	it doesn't matter who it is.	nech uћ je to ktokoѕvek?

58:00	You know, sirs,	Viete pбni,

58:03	this question of authority,	tбto otбzka autority,

58:08	which conditions	ktorб tak veѕmi
	our minds so deeply,	podmieтuje naљe mysle,

58:13	is one of the most	je jedna z najhorљнch vecн
	terrible things on earth.	na svete.

58:18	You go to India	Idete do Indie

58:22	and there	a tam citujete
	they quote scriptures by the yard,	nбpisy na dvore,

58:30	and they say, are you saying this	a oni hovoria..vy hovorнte podѕa
	according to the scriptures?	toho, иo je tam napнsanй.

58:35	Have you read them	Preинtali ste si ich, alebo
	or are you sharing with them?	ste ich zdieѕali?

58:39	And so on.	A tak пalej...

58:41	They can't put all that aside	Oni nevedia daќ vљetko bokom
	and look at their own life.	a pozrieќ sa na svoj ћivot.

58:51	And they are frightened	A boja sa pozrieќ na svoj ћivot,
	to look at their own life,

58:54	it is an act of self-deception,	je to akt
		sebaklamu,

58:57	an act of escape	a akt ъniku
	from themselves.	od seba.

59:04	I am not saying	Nehovorнm, ћe to
	you are doing that, sir.	robнte, pane.

59:07	All that I am saying is:	To, иo hovorнm je:

59:11	is there such a thing	иi existuje takб vec
	as absolute goodness?	ako absolъtne dobro?

59:19	Call it by	Hovorte si tomu ako chcete:
	whatever name you like:

59:22	enlightenment, truth,	osvietenie, pravda,

59:27	the immeasurable,	nemerateѕnй,
	the unnameable, and so on	nepomenovateѕnй, atп...

59:32	– is there such a thing	- existuje takб vec ako
	as total goodness,	totбlne dobro?

59:37	absolute goodness?	TOTБLNE dobro?

59:43	You enquire.	Vy sa pэtajte!

59:47	And if you look to an answer	A ak sa pozriete na odpoveп,

59:51	in any of the scripture	na niektorй tie pнsma
	or any of the philosophers,	alebo niekoho z tэch filozofov,

59:54	you are not answering it	neodpovedбte na to sami.
	for yourself,

59:56	you are answering it	Odpovedбte na to podѕa
	according to somebody's explanation.	niekoho vysvetlenia.

1:00:03	And that becomes	A to je
	so utterly valueless.	ъplne bezhodnotnй.

1:00:09	It isn't vanity that says,	To nie je mбrnivosќ, ktora hovorн:
	I must find out for myself.	Musнm to zistiќ sбm!

1:00:19	It is an act of humiliation,	Je to иin ponнћenia,
	of humility,	pokory,

1:00:25	that says, I know nothing.	ktorэ hovorн:
		Neviem niи!

1:00:29	Others may be true,	Ostatnн mфћu maќ pravdu
	what they have said,	v tom, иo hovoria,

1:00:31	but I know nothing.	ale ja to neviem.

1:00:36	So you abnegate all authority,	Takћe sa vzdбte
		vљetkэch autorнt,

1:00:40	deny it,	popriete ich,

1:00:42	and therefore you become	a preto sa stanete mimoriadne
	extraordinarily humble to find out.	skromnэ, aby ste to zistil.

1:00:50	And we are afraid	Ale my sa bojнme byќ
	to be so open, honest,	takэ otvorenн, ъprimnн,

1:00:57	for we like to be	pretoћe mбme radi keп
	very proud of our knowledge,	mфћeme byќ hrdн na svoje vedomosti,

1:01:05	the depth of our reading.	mnoћstvo nбљho инtania.

1:01:11	But you may read all the books	Ale mфћete preинtaќ vљetky
	in the world,	knihy na svete,

1:01:17	but if you yourself	ale ak ste vy sami nepochopili
	have not understood what goodness is,	иo je to dobro,

1:01:26	and the flowering	a prekvitanie dobra
	of that goodness in your life,	vo vaљom ћivote,

1:01:31	what value is it	ako zбleћн na tom,
	what others say?	иo inн hovoria?

1:01:36	Yes, sir?	Vљak? Pane?

1:01:38	Q: I would like to ask,	O: Chcel by som sa spэtaќ...

1:01:40	I heard you, I think I understand,	Poиъval som vбs. Myslнm, ћe som
	but I have a question about	pochopil, ale mбm jednu otбzku

1:01:45	the persistent	o neustбlom sa nahбтanн
	pursuit of pleasure.	za poteљenнm.

1:01:56	It has been my experience,	Je to moja skъsenosќ
	in the last year,	ktorъ som mal minulэ rok,

1:02:01	that I found	ћe som naљiel ъplne
	an altogether new and wonderful joy	novъ a krбsnu radosќ

1:02:06	in myself	vo mne a v prбci
	and working with others,	s druhэmi.

1:02:09	in a calm pursuit of sex, money,	V pokojnej snahe o sex,
		peniaze,

1:02:17	God, power, distribution of it,	boha, moci, v predбvanн toho,

1:02:20	a fair distribution	spravodlivй rozdelenie
	of all of those things.	vљetkэch tэchto vecн.

1:02:24	And I work with people,	A pracujem s ѕudmi,

1:02:27	so I see strong	takћe vidнm silnэ
	and growing elements of rationality,	a rastъci element racionality,

1:02:32	not utter irrationality	nie naprostej iracionality

1:02:38	in some movements	v niektorэch veciach
	that I am involved with.	ktorй robнm.

1:02:41	I see joy	Vidнm radosќ,

1:02:44	and people	a ѕudн ktorн sa snaћia vymaniќ
	trying to break out of past rigidities.	z minulej skostnatenosti.

1:02:48	K: So, are you saying, sir,	K: Takћe hovorнte pane,

1:02:52	that because	ћe pretoћe sa пalej nenahбтate
	you are no longer pursuing pleasure,	za poteљenнm,

1:03:01	you are in a state with others,	ste v spojenн s ostatnэmi,
	or with a community of people,	alebo s komunitou ѕudн,

1:03:06	that you are joyous?	ћe ste veselэ?

1:03:09	Q: I think I am joyous	O: Myslнm si, ћe som veselэ,
	because in the last year	pretoћe minulэ rok

1:03:13	I found out that it was	som zistil, ћe to bolo v poriadku
	okay to calmly pursue pleasure.	pokojne hѕadaќ poteљenie.

1:03:17	K: Oh, you are saying it is	K: Och, vy hovorнte, ћe je to
	perfectly all right to pursue pleasure.	ъplne v poriadku, hѕadaќ poteљenie.

1:03:23	Is that it?	To je to?

1:03:25	Q: And to work for it.	OP: A pracovaќ pre to.
	K: Yes, sir.	K: Бno, pane.

1:03:27	I mean, if you and I and a half a dozen	Myslнm tэm, ak vy, ja a pol tucta
	people are pursuing pleasure	пalљнch hѕadб poteљenie

1:03:31	and all work together	a vљetci pracujъ na poteљenн,
	for that pleasure, it is lovely.	to je milй.

1:03:34	We all get rather delighted	My vљetci sa radљej poteљнme
	with each other, and joy.	jeden s druhэm a s radosќou.

1:03:39	But have we gone into this question	Ale prebrali sme si tъto otбzku
	sufficiently deeply:	dostatoиne hlboko?

1:03:44	what is implied in this pursuit?	Иo je zahrnutй v tomto
		hnanн sa?

1:03:47	You may pursue pleasure,	Mфћete vyhѕadбvaќ poteљenie.

1:03:49	I am not saying you should	Nehovorнm, ћeby ste mali alebo
	or should not, that is up to you,	nemali. Je to na vбs!

1:03:52	but what is implied in this?	Ale иo to zahrтuje?

1:03:58	Q: If we eliminate	P: Ak vylъиime vљetky vonkajљie
	all external authority,	autority,

1:04:01	what will keep the world	udrћнme svet pred anarchiou?
	from anarchy?

1:04:05	K: Wait a minute, sir.	K: Poиkajte pane! Nikdy som nepovedal
	I never said exclude all authority.	vylъиiќ vљetky autority.

1:04:11	How can you exclude	Ako mфћete vylъиiќ
	all authority, outside authority?	vљetky autority? Vonkajљie autority?

1:04:16	When you drive on the road,	Keп cestujete po ceste,

1:04:17	you keep to the – left side here? –	drћнte sa - naѕavo?-
	yes, left side of the road.	бno, na ѕavej strane cesty.

1:04:25	In Europe,	V Eurуpe sa drћнte
	you keep to the right side.	napravo.

1:04:29	There are laws.	To sъ zбkony.

1:04:31	You have to pay tax or whatever it is,	Budete musieќ platiќ dane
	there are laws which you have to obey.	alebo иo to je.

1:04:33		Existujъ zбkony, ktorй budete
		musieќ poиъvaќ.

1:04:35	But I am talking of	Ale ja hovorнm o

1:04:37	the psychological	psychologickej
	dependence on authority,	zбvislosti na moci,

1:04:41	whether the guru	иi guruovi,
	or the priest or the analyst	иi kтazovi alebo analytikovi,

1:04:45	or your wife or husband	alebo na vaљej manћelke иi manћelovi
	– the authority.	- autorita.

1:04:49	Q: But we are then	O: Ale potom sme v situбcii...
	put in a situation...

1:04:52	K: Sir, wait a minute.	K: Poиkajte, pane!

1:04:55	I haven't	Eљte som nezodpovedal
	answered the first question,	prvъ otбzku,

1:04:56	if you don't mind.	ak vбm to nevadн.

1:04:59	The gentleman said	Ten pбn povedal
	he finds great pleasure	ћe nachбdza veѕkй poteљenie

1:05:06	in the pursuing of pleasure,	v hѕadanн rozkoљe,

1:05:09	and there is great joy in it.	a ћe mб z toho veѕkъ radosќ.

1:05:13	And working together	A pracujъc spoloиne
	with people,	s ѕuпmi,

1:05:18	that joy is spreading,	tб radosќ sa љнri,

1:05:23	is involving, inviting.	zapбja, pozэva.

1:05:29	And we are enquiring	A my sa pэtame
	into that question.	tъto otбzku.

1:05:38	I wonder how we can	Rozmэљѕam, ako to mфћeme
	explain this a little more differently?	vysvetliќ trochu inak?

1:05:45	You know,	Viete, uvaћovali ste niekedy,
	have you ever considered

1:05:49	how pleasure	ako snaha zabбvaќ sa
	and the pursuit of pleasure

1:05:55	divides people?	rozdeѕuje ѕudн?

1:06:03	Haven't you considered that?	Nerozmэљѕali ste nad tэm?

1:06:07	Divides people,	Rozdeѕuje ѕudн,
	that is – you,	to ste - vy,

1:06:11	in your pursuit of pleasure,	vo svojej snahe o poteљenie,
	according to your belief	podѕa svojho presvedиenia

1:06:15	– you believe in some deity,	- verнte v nejakй boћstvo,
	some saviour, some guru –	nejakэch spasiteѕov, nejakэch guru -

1:06:21	in the pursuit of that pleasure,	v hnanн sa sa zбbavou
	you have your fellow members	mбte svojich sъkmeтovcov,

1:06:24	in that path, in that group.	na tejto ceste, v tejto skupine.

1:06:28	That group is separate	Tбto skupina je oddelenб
	from another group	od inej skupiny

1:06:31	which has its own guru,	ktorб mб svojho vlastnйho guru,
	its own leader,	vlastnйho vodcu,

1:06:34	its own political boss,	svojho vlastnйho politickйho bosa
	and they find pleasure in that.	a to im sa to pбиi.

1:06:38	isn't there a division	Nie je tam rozdelenie
	between these two?	medzi tэmito dvoma?

1:06:44	The Catholic,	Katolнci,

1:06:45	completely absorbed	ъplne absorbovanн
	in his Catholicism,	v нch katolicizme,

1:06:50	in his dogma, in his belief,	v jeho dogme, v jeho viere,
	in his saviour, in all that,	v jeho zбchrane, v tom vљetkom,

1:06:55	and that group	a tбto skupina
	is extraordinarily vital,	je mimoriadne vitбlna,

1:06:58	extraordinarily joyous,	mimoriadne radostnб.

1:07:01	and there is	A existuje
	the other group who say, look,	druhб skupina, ktorб hovorн: Pozrite,

1:07:04	we don't	my neverнme v takй veci.
	believe in all that stuff.

1:07:08	So there is this division.	Takћe tam je toto rozdelenie.

1:07:15	As there is inwardly,	Pretoћe je smerom dovnъtra,
	there is division,	je tam rozdelenie,

1:07:18	because you pursue pleasure,	pretoћe hѕadбte poteљenie,
	consistently, doggedly.	dфsledne, zarputilo.

1:07:24	And there is always	A vћdy tam je
	this sense of distrust,	tento pocit nedфvery,

1:07:31	anxiety, fear.	ъzkosti, strachu.

1:07:36	So, all this exists.	Takћe toto vљetko existuje.

1:07:42	Haven't you noticed also,	Vљimli ste si tieћ,

1:07:44	when you are pursuing pleasure,	ћe keп sa nahбтate za poteљenнm,
	how self-centred you are?	akн ste sebeckн?

1:07:54	And being self-centred,	A pretoћe ste sebeckн,

1:07:56	you collect other people	budete zbieraќ okolo seba
	who are also self-centred.	пalљнch ѕudн,

1:07:58		ktorн sъ tieћ sъstredenн na seba.

1:08:00	Haven't you noticed	Nevљimli ste si
	all these things?	vљetky tieto veci?

1:08:06	So, we are talking of total action,	Hovorнme o celkovej иinnosti,
	not in a particular society,	nie v urиitej spoloиnosti,

1:08:13	total action of a human being	ale o celkovom pфsobenн ѕudskej
	whether he lives in India,	bytosti, иi uћ ћije v Indii,

1:08:17	in China,	v Инne,
	in Russia or in this country.	v Rusku alebo v tejto krajine.

1:08:21	You know, sir,	Viete pane,
	this is a marvellous country.	toto je ъћasnб krajina.

1:08:26	I am not praising you.	Nechvбlim vбs.

1:08:30	America, the country,	Amerika, ako krajina,
	is a beautiful country,	je krбsna zem,

1:08:36	one of the most	jedna z najkrajљнch krajнn na svete.
	beautiful countries in the world.

1:08:40	And you are destroying it.	A vy ju niинte.

1:08:44	You have seen those hills,	Videli ste tie kopce,
	how they are ripping it up?	ako sъ rozrэpanй?

1:08:51	Well, that is up to you.	Teda, je to len na vбs.

1:08:56	Q: Sir, I have another question	Otбzka: Pane, mбm пalљiu otбzku
	I would like to ask.	Rбd by som sa spэtala...

1:08:59	K: Yes, sir?	K: Бno, pane?

1:09:02	Just a minute, madame.	Len minъtu, madam.

1:09:05	Q: I have a question.	Otбzka: Mбm otбzku.
	K: Yes, sir.	K: Бno, pane.

1:09:08	Q: In my life,	O: V mojom ћivote som myslel
	I thought about all my friends	na vљetkэch mojich priateѕov

1:09:11	and what I wanted	a иo som s nimi chcel
	to do with them.	robiќ.

1:09:14	I realise that we were all people	Uvedomujem si, ћe vљetci sme ѕudia
	and I notice that,	a vљimol som si, ћe

1:09:19	as we always	ako sme sa vћdy
	tried to get together	snaћili daќ dokopy

1:09:21	and move in a direction where	a daќ sa smerom kde
	we would always come closer together,	by sme mali vћdy bliћљie k sebe.

1:09:25	in recent times	V poslednej dobe
	we have moved farther apart,	sme sa od seba odcudzili ,

1:09:27	in career, in jobs, in travel.	v kariйre, v zamestnanн, v cestovanн.

1:09:31	And I said to myself,	A povedal som si,
	that is not what I wanted.	toto nie je to, иo som chcel.

1:09:34	And I came up with the idea that	A priљiel som na to, ћe

1:09:37	if I chose one of my friends	si vyberiem jednйho z nich
	to be a number one,	za priateѕa инslo jedna

1:09:40	with the rest of them	z ostatnэch,
	being number one,

1:09:43	and I started	a zaиal som mu venovaќ
	to put my attention on him	svoju pozornosќ

1:09:47	and give him	a dбvaќ mu
	what he wanted on his terms,	иo chce,

1:09:52	and he started to give my other friends	a on zaиal dбvaќ mojim priateѕov
	what they wanted on their terms,	иo chceli,

1:09:56	then everything would move forward	ћe potom vљetko bude v poriadku
	and we would be happy.	a my budeme љќastnн.

1:09:59	I am working on that	Pracujem na tom,
	but I am curious.	ale som zvedavэ.

1:10:03	K: Would you kindly	K: Mohli by ste lбskavo
	make the question brief?	skrбtiќ otбzku?

1:10:07	What is the question?	Akб je otбzka?

1:10:10	Q: In trying to get closer	O: Keп som sa skъљal dostaќ bliћљie
	to my wife and friends,	k manћelke a priateѕom,

1:10:12	I noticed that I didn't.	vљimol som si, ћe som sa vlastne
		nedostal.

1:10:15	So I chose one particular friend	Tak som si vybral jednйho
		konkrйtneho priateѕa

1:10:17	above all the others	pred ostanэmi a urobil si z neho
	and made him number one,	инslo jedna

1:10:20	and gave him all he wanted,	a dal som mu vљetko, иo chcel,

1:10:22	and he in turn gave all the others	a on na oplбtku on dal ostatnэm
	all they wanted.	vљetko, иo chceli.

1:10:26	I am working on it	Pracujem na tom
	– what do you think of this idea?	- иo si o tom myslнte?

1:10:31	K: Have you heard the question?	K: Poиuli ste otбzku?
		(k obecenstvu)

1:10:35	Have you all heard the question,	Vљetci ste poиuli otбzku?
	have I to repeat it?	Mбm ju opakovaќ?

1:10:40	Sir, we are not laughing,	Pane, nesmejeme sa.
	I am just asking.	Len sa pэtam.

1:10:44	Have all of you	Vљetci ste poиuli otбzku?
	heard the question?

1:10:46	Right.	Dobre!

1:10:51	I can't get on	Nevychбdzam s manћelkou
	with my wife and friends	a deќmi,

1:10:56	but I can get on	ale s jednэm иlovekom vychбdzam.
	with one person.

1:11:01	And that one person	A tб osoba pomбha inэm,
	helps the others,

1:11:04	he gets on with the others.	vychбdza s inэmi.

1:11:10	What is the problem in this?	Akэ je v tom problйm?

1:11:14	I can't get on with my wife,	Nevychбdzam s manћelkou,

1:11:18	therefore I can get on	preto mфћem vychбdzaќ
	with others – is that it?	s inэmi - je to toto?

1:11:21	Or I have chosen one person	Alebo, som si vybral jednu osobu,
	with whom I can get on.	s ktorou vychбdzam.

1:11:30	Just a minute,	Len minъtku. Pozrime sa na to
	let's go at this differently.	z druhej strany.

1:11:35	What is relationship?	Иo je to vzќah?

1:11:40	To be related,	Byќ prнbuznэ,
	what does it mean?	иo to znamenб?

1:11:48	Relationship	Vzќah znamenб byќ prнbuznэ,
	means to be related,

1:11:51	to be in contact with,	byќ v kontakte,

1:11:55	not only physically	nie len fyzicky,
	but psychologically, inwardly.	ale aj psychologicky, vnъtorne.

1:12:02	Are we related to anybody,	Sme s niekэm spojenн,

1:12:06	except of course	samozrejme okrem matky a otca.
	father and mother, etc.

1:12:09	I am not talking of that,	Nehovorнm o tom, ale sme
	but are we related to anybody?	s niekэm spojenн?

1:12:13	Are you related to me	Ste so mnou spojenэ,
	and am I related to you?	a som ja spojenэ s vami?

1:12:21	Are you related to your wife?	Ste spojenэ so svojou ћenou?
	To your father, to your mother?	S vaљim otcom, vaљou matkou?

1:12:25	To your friend,	Vaљim priateѕom, vaљim dievиaќom,
	to your girl, to your boy?	vaљim chlapcom?

1:12:28	Are you?	Ste? Иo to slovo
	What does this word relationship mean?	"vzќah" znamenб?

1:12:35	Not only	Nie len byќ vo fyzickom
	to be physically in contact,	kontakte,

1:12:39	but also it means	ale tieћ to znamenб
	much deeper than that, surely.	aj nieиo inй. Iste!

1:12:44	To be related with somebody	Byќ s niekэm v spojenн
	actually means	v skutoиnosti znamenб

1:12:48	to be related at all levels	byќ prepojenэ na vљetkэch ъrovniach
	of one's being, doesn't it?	bytosti, vљakћe?

1:12:55	No?	Nie?

1:12:57	I may be related to my wife	Mфћem byќ v spojenн
		so ћenou,

1:13:01	– I am not married –	- ja nie som ћenatэ - mфћem byќ
	I may be related to my wife physically.	v spojenн s manћelkou fyzicky.

1:13:06	I may not be	Nemusнm s тou byќ v spojenн
	related intellectually,	intelektuбlne,

1:13:11	spiritually	duchovne
	– if I can use that word.	- ak mфћem pouћiќ to slovo.

1:13:13	I may not be related to her	Nemusнm s тou byќ spojenэ
	at all except physically.	vфbec, okrem fyziиna.

1:13:17	Is that relationship?	Je to vzќah?

1:13:21	I spend	Veѕkъ иasќ

1:13:25	a great part of my life	svojho ћivota trбvim
	in an office, in a factory,	v kancelбrii, v tovбrni,

1:13:30	and come home	a prichбdzam domov s vlastnэmi
	with my own ambitions,	ambнciami,

1:13:34	greeds,	chamtivosќou, urбћkami,
	insults, all the agonies, pains,	vљetkэmi mukami, bolesќami,

1:13:38	and have I related to my wife?	a mбm nieиo spoloиnй so ћenou?

1:13:45	So relationship means,	Takћe vzќah znamenб,
	doesn't it,	vљakћe,

1:13:49	to be related totally,	byќ spojenэ ъplne,
	completely,	kompletne,

1:13:52	at all levels of one's being:	na vљetkэch ъrovniach bytosti:

1:13:57	physically, emotionally,	fyzicky, emocionбlne,

1:14:00	intellectually, subtly,	intelektuбlne, jemne,

1:14:03	you know, the whole thing.	viete, celъ tъ vec.

1:14:06	That means love,	To znamenб lбsku,

1:14:10	doesn't it?	ћe?

1:14:14	When there is love,	Kde je lбska,

1:14:16	you are related	ste spojenн na vљetkэch
	at all levels at the same time,	ъrovniach naraz,

1:14:23	with the same intensity.	s rovnakou
		intenzitou.

1:14:27	But we are not, unfortunately.	Ale my nie sme,
		naneљќastie.

1:14:29	We have images	Mбme predstavy

1:14:32	which intervene, which divide,	ktorй do toho zasahujъ,
		ktorй rozdeѕujъ,

1:14:34	which make us fragmented.	ktzorй nбs delia.

1:14:41	And this is	A tomuto hovorнme
	what we call relationship.	vzќah.

1:14:48	See again,	Pozrite sa znova!
	we go superficially,	Znova sa povrchne

1:14:53	try to solve	snaћнme vyrieљiќ
	our problems superficially,	naљe problйmy,

1:14:57	when the problem	keп je problйm
	is so very deep,	v skutoиnosti veѕmi hlboko,

1:15:01	and we don't take trouble,	a nedбvame si nбmahu,

1:15:03	we don't give thought,	nremyslнme, neskъmame
	enquiry into this question, deeply.	otбzku do hеbky.

1:15:09	We are satisfied	Staин nбm nejakб povrchnб odpoveп.
	by some superficial answer.

1:15:15	If I want to live	Ak chcem ћiќ s niekэm
	in relationship with somebody	vo vzќahu,

1:15:20	I must be without any image	musнm byќ bez akejkoѕvek predstavy
	about myself or about that person.	o mne, alebo o tej osobe.

1:15:27	There must be no barrier.	Nesmъ tam byќ ћiadne bariйry.

1:15:33	Of course, sir,	Samozrejme pane, vy toto
	you listen to this,	poиъvate,

1:15:39	you feel it	nachvнѕu to cнtite,
	for the moment, verbally,	verbбlne,

1:15:43	but you go away	ale idete preи a spadnete
	and you fall back into the old trap.	do tej samej pasce.

1:15:51	So what is important is to see	Takћe, иo je dфleћitй je to,
		vidieќ

1:15:56	if you are actually,	иi ste naozaj, v beћnom ћivote,
	in daily life, related,	spojenн,

1:16:03	so that you have	takћe nemбte ћiadne
	no barrier, no resistance.	bariйry, ћiadny odpor.

1:16:12	And when there is	A keп tam nie je ћiadny odpor,
	no resistance, no barrier,	ћiadna bariйra,

1:16:15	no division,	ћiadne rozdelenie,
	then there is no conflict,	potom tam nie je ћiadny konflikt,

1:16:21	both with that person	ani s tou osobou,
	or within yourself.	ani vo vбs.

1:16:27	That is the beauty of relations,	Toto je krбsa
		vzќahu,

1:16:30	that is the beauty	toto je krбsa
	of living together	ћitia spolu,

1:16:34	in a commune	v komъne
	or in a family or in a community.	alebo v rodine, alebo v komunite.

1:16:44	Yes, madame.	Бno, madam?!

1:16:47	Q: I wonder if you could	O: Zaujнmalo by ma, иi by ste mohli
	clarify a contradiction.	objasniќ odpor.

1:16:56	I have, for the past few years,	Za poslednэch pбr rokov

1:17:00	learned a great deal	som sa od vбs
	by listening to you,	veѕa nauиila

1:17:05	about getting in touch with...	ako sa dostaќ do kontaktu s...
	[inaudible].	(nepoиuteѕnй).

1:17:15	I find that the same thing	Zisќujem, ћe rovnakб vec sa robн,
	has been done

1:17:20	or is being attempted	alebo sa o to pokъљajъ

1:17:22	by an organisation	organizбcie
	for millions of women.	pre miliуny ћien.

1:17:27	I am, of course, referring to	Samozrejme, hovoria o
	the Women's Liberation movement.	Ћenskom oslobodeneckom hnutн.

1:17:31	Through consciousness raising,	Cez dvнhanie povedomia,

1:17:34	trying to raise	sa snaћia pozdvihnъќ
	the consciousness of women.	vedomie ћien.

1:17:38	K: I see, I understand, madame.	K: Aha, rozumiem madam.

1:17:43	I am working for	Pracujem pre
	the Women's Lib, Liberation,	Ћenskй oslobodenie,

1:17:48	and we are trying to raise	A pokъљame sa pozdvihnъќ
	women's consciousness	ћenskй povedomie

1:17:53	to a higher level.	na vyљљн stupeт.

1:17:56	What do you say about it?	Иo na to hovorнte?

1:18:01	You know, first of all,	Viete, predovљetkэm,

1:18:04	have the men raised	keп muћi pozvihli svoje povedomie
	their consciousness to such a level	na takъ ъroveт,

1:18:08	that women	aj ћeny sa musia
	also have to reach that level?	dostaќ na tъ ъroveт?

1:18:21	Are men	Muћi sъ
	so astonishingly superior	tak ъћasne nadradenн,

1:18:26	because they are	pretoћe sъ technicky zdatnн,
	technologically capable,

1:18:29	going to a factory,	chodia do tovбrnн, sъ vynaliezavн,
	inventing, engineering,	sъ dobrн v stojбrstve,

1:18:33	you know,	viete, vљetky tie veci
	all the things that men are doing.	иo muћi robia...

1:18:35	The most appalling things	Najdesivejљie veci
	and marvellous things,	a aj najnбdhernejљie veci.

1:18:40	killing each other.	Zabнjajъ jeden druhйho.

1:18:46	And their consciousness	A ich vedomie
	is so noble,	je takй љѕachetnй...

1:18:49	and you want	A vy sa im chcete vyrovnaќ?
	to raise yours to their level?

1:18:56	Q: We want to raise ourselves	O: My chceme zvэљiќ svoju
	for ourselves.	vlastnъ ъroveт.

1:18:59	Let men raise	Nech si muћi zdvнhajъ
	their consciousness.	svoje vlastnй povedomie.

1:19:01	K: I am questioning	K: Pozerбm sa na vec v celku.
	the whole thing.

1:19:06	Wait a minute, please.	Poиkajte troљku, prosнm.

1:19:09	I am not a politician,	Nie som politik,

1:19:13	I don't want	nechcem vaљu podporu.
	your encouragement.

1:19:21	As I said the other day	Ako som minule povedal,
	or yesterday,	иi vиera,

1:19:24	please clap	prosнm tlieskajte, keп tu
	when the speaker is not here.	reиnнk nie je.

1:19:32	Look,	Pozrite,

1:19:34	do you know	viete иo to znamenб,
	to raise consciousness,	pozdvihnъќ

1:19:37	what it means?	vedomie?

1:19:42	You see, you use that phrase.	Vidнte, pouћнvate tъ frбzu.
	What does it mean?	Иo to znamenб?

1:19:46	Who is to raise consciousness?	Kto dvнha povedomie?
	What is consciousness?	Иo je to vedomie?

1:19:52	What is your consciousness,	Akй je vaљe povedomie,

1:19:56	as a Women's Lib,	ako ћeny libelбrky,

1:19:58	or being a simple woman	alebo beћnej ћeny ktorб ћije
	living in an unfortunate world,	v neљќastnom svete,

1:20:03	what is your consciousness	akй je vaљe vedomie,

1:20:06	which you are	ktorй idete pozdvihnъќ
	going to raise to a higher level?	na vyљљiu ъroveт?

1:20:10	What is your consciousness?	Akй je vaљe vedomie?

1:20:13	Your consciousness	Vaљe vedomie je to,
	is what it contains, isn't it.	иo obsahuje, nie?

1:20:18	No?	Nie?

1:20:21	My consciousness	Moje vedomie
	is the content	je obsah

1:20:27	which exists	ktorэ existuje
	in that consciousness:	v tomto vedomн:

1:20:31	my greed, envy, ambition,	moja chamtivosќ, zбvisќ, ambнcie,
	my nationality, my fears,	nбrodnosќ, moje strachy,

1:20:35	my guilt,	moja vina,
	my pursuit of pleasure,	moje nahбтanie sa za poteљenнm,

1:20:38	you follow, a dozen things.	skedujete? Kopec vecн.

1:20:41	That makes	To vytvбra moje vedomie, nie?
	my consciousness, doesn't it?

1:20:45	Right?	Vљakћe?

1:20:46	Now, who is going	Teraz, kto nбm pozdvihne
	to raise that consciousness?	toto vedomie?

1:20:50	Another part of me	Tб istб иasќ mтa,
	who is equally stupid	ktorб je rovnako hlъpa

1:20:55	or equally cunning?	a rovnako prefнkanб?

1:20:58	Raise that to what	Pozdvihne k иomu?
	– you follow?	Sledujete?

1:21:01	What are you all doing,	Иo to vљetci robнte,
	for God's sake,	preboha,

1:21:04	when you talk of	keп hovorнte
	raising consciousness?	o zvэљovanн vedomia?

1:21:07	Q: We raise our own consciousness,	O: Zdvнhame si naљe vlastnй vedomie,
	each one for ourself.	kaћdэ sбm za seba.

1:21:11	K: What do you mean by	K: Иo myslнte tэm:
	raising your own consciousness?	zvyљovaќ si svoje vlastnй vedomie?

1:21:16	Q: Become aware of who you are.	O: Uvedomovaќ si, kto ste!

1:21:20	K: What are you?	K: A kto ste?

1:21:24	A woman?	Ћena?

1:21:26	Because you have got a physical...	Pretoћe mбte fyziиno, ste ћena
	you are a woman

1:21:29	and therefore you want to	a preto si chcete inak
	raise your consciousness differently?	zvэљiќ svoje vedomie?

1:21:33	Sir, do look at it.	Pane, pozrite sa na to!
	Please don't answer me.	Prosнm, neodpovedajte mi!

1:21:36	Do look at it, for God's sake.	Pozrite sa na to, preboha.

1:21:38	What a mess	Akэ zmдtok vytvбrame
	we are making of this world!	v tomto svete!

1:21:43	You, a woman, or a man,	Vy, ћena, muћ,

1:21:51	women have been ill-treated	so ћenami sa zle zaobchбdza

1:21:55	for thousands of years.	tisнcky rokov.

1:21:57	You go to the East, you will know it	Keп pфjdete na vэchod, budete to
	much more than you do it here.	vidieќ oveѕa viac, neћ tu.

1:22:01	You are just playing with words.	Len sa zahrбvate so slovниkami.

1:22:03	You go to India,	Choпte do Indie,
	go to Asia, the Arab world,	Бzie, arabskйho sveta!

1:22:08	the woman is kept,	So ћenou sa tam zaobchбdza,
	you know – I won't go into all that.	viete, ani o tom nechcem hovoriќ.

1:22:12	The women there	So ћenami sa tam zaobchбdza ako
	are treated as chattel, slaves.	s vecami, otrokmi.

1:22:18	Here,	Tu ste naљќastie inн,
	you are fortunately different,

1:22:24	and you want equal rights,	a chcete rovnakй prбva, rovnakъ
	equal pay, etc., as the men have.	plбcu, atп., ako majъ muћi.

1:22:30	All right, you will have it.	V poriadku, majte su ju!

1:22:32	You are struggling,	Snaћнte sa,
	fighting, propagandising,	bojujete, propagujete,

1:22:37	raising your standards	zvyљujete svoj љtandart. V poriadku.
	to that level. All right, then what?	A potom иo?

1:22:44	Q: We don't think that is the point.	O: Nemyslнme si, ћe je to je hlavnэ
	K: That is not the point?	zmysel toho. K: Nie je?

1:22:48	Q: No. The point is that women,	O: Nie. Ide o to, ћe ћeny, okrem
	in addition to being enslaved,	toho, aby sa oslobodili z otroctva,

1:22:52	they are also being trained	sъ vychovбvanй, aby si
	not to be aware of themselves.	uvedomili seba.

1:22:59	K: Ah, wait a minute.	K: Poиkajte minъtku.

1:23:04	She is saying,	Ona hovorн, ћe si seba
	they are not aware of themselves.	neuvedomujъ.

1:23:09	Yesterday morning and today,	Vиera rбno a dnes som hovoril
	I talked about being aware of yourself,	o uvedomovanн si seba,

1:23:13	not as a woman or a man	nie ako ћenu a muћa
	– be aware of yourself.	- uvedomovaќ si seba.

1:23:21	Why don't you?	Preиo to tak nerobнte?

1:23:25	Q: Because of fear.	O: Zo strachu.

1:23:27	K: Fear. All right,	K: Strach. V poriadku, tak si
	then be aware of that fear.	uvedomujte ten strach.

1:23:31	Q: And then?	O: A potom?

1:23:34	K: Just a minute, madame.	K: Minъtku, madam.

1:23:36	Look, listen to me,	Pozrite, poиъvajte ma,
	two minutes.	dve minъtky.

1:23:39	Look, I am aware as a man.	Pozrite, uvedomujem si seba ako muћa?
	Oh God, I am not – sorry.	Boћe nie, neuvedomujem.(sarkasticky)

1:23:44	I am aware.	Uvedomujem si seba.

1:23:47	I am aware of my reactions,	Uvedomujem si svoje reakcie,

1:23:50	of my thoughts,	moje myљlienky,

1:23:52	my attitude	mфj postoj k ћene
	towards a woman or a man,	alebo muћovi,

1:23:54	another fellow being,	k пalљej bytosti,
	another human being.	k пalљiemu иloveku.

1:23:58	I am aware how I look at them,	Uvedomujem si, ako sa na nich
	how I treat them.	pozerбm, ako s nimi zaobchбdzam.

1:24:04	I am aware of this division,	Uvedomujem si tento rozdiel

1:24:06	if there is a division	ak tam rozdiel je,
	between me and another.	medzi mnou a nнm.

1:24:11	And in that awareness,	A v tom uvedomovanн si,

1:24:16	there is a disappearing	je miznutie
	of all division.	toho rozdielu.

1:24:20	Then I am totally a human being.	Vtedy som ъplnб ѕudskб bytosќ.

1:24:23	Then in that awareness I find out	V tom uvedomovanн si nбjdem
	various forms of fear, anxiety,	rфzne formy strahu, ъzkosti,

1:24:29	I face them, I understand them,	иelнm im, rozumiem im,
	I look at them – they are facts.	pozerбm sa na ne - sъ to fakty.

1:24:36	And to go beyond is to be human.	A dostaќ sa za ne, je byќ иlovekom.

1:24:40	When you are human	Keп ste иlovek, nie ste ћena
	you are not a woman or man,	alebo muћ,

1:24:44	we are human beings	my sme ѕudskй bytosti ћijъce
	living together.	spolu.

1:24:51	You see, sirs,	Vidнte pбni?
	please do listen to something.	Prosнm, vypoиujte si nieиo.

1:24:56	Don't – please,	Nie prosнm, ak smiem
	if I may suggest most hesitantly –	nesmelo navrhnъќ -

1:25:05	don't become superficial.	nebuпte povrchnн.

1:25:09	don't live on a verbal level.	Neћite na verbбlnej ъrovni.

1:25:15	don't live with slogans.	Neћite so sloganmi.

1:25:21	Go deeply	Ponorte sa do seba
	into yourself and find out.	a prнdete na to!

1:25:28	If you are raising	Ak si dvнhate svoje povedomie
	your consciousness as a human being,	ako ѕudskб bytosќ,

1:25:35	then you have to understand	potom musнte porozumieќ tomu
	what that consciousness is,	иo to je vedomie,

1:25:41	how man has ill-treated women,	ako muћi zle zaobchбdzajъ so ћenami,

1:25:46	and how women	a ako ћeny zle
	also have ill-treated men.	zaobchбdzajъ s muћmi.

1:25:52	Look at the whole picture,	Pozrite sa na celэ obraz,

1:25:55	not only in this country	nie len v tejto krajine,
	but the rest of the world.	ale na celom svete.

1:25:59	You are part of the world,	Vy ste иasќ tohto sveta,

1:26:05	we have made this world.	my sme vytvorili tento svet.

1:26:10	And you kind of separate yourself	A vy sa troљku separujete na
	into a little corner called America	malэ roћtek zvanэ Amerika

1:26:14	and try to solve.	a snaћнte sa to rieљiќ.
	It is a world problem this,	Toto je celosvetovэ problйm,

1:26:21	problem of human relationship.	problйm ѕudskэch vzќahov.

1:26:25	And if you don't	Ak to nevyrieљite dnes, zajtra,
	solve it now, today,

1:26:30	not in some future,	nie v nejakej budъcnosti,

1:26:32	you are going to create	budete vytvбraќ
	such havoc in the world.	vo svete zmдtok.