Krishnamurti_VI

Krishnamurti Subtitles

Brockwood Park - 30 August 1979

Public Question & Answer 2

0:31	We have so far	Chúng ta có đến 150 câu hỏi!
	150 questions.

0:39	I don't think	Tôi không nghĩ sẽ có thể
	it will be possible

0:41	to answer all of them	trả lời hết sáng nay.
	this morning.

0:45	Probably one needs	Có lẽ cần một
	a month to answer them,	tháng để trả lời

0:49	and you won't be here,	bạn sẽ không ở đây và
	and I won't be here.	tôi cũng không ở đây.

0:57	I think before we answer	Tôi nghĩ trước khi
	these questions	chúng ta trả lời

1:06	please remember that we are	xin hãy nhớ chúng
	sharing the question	ta chia sẻ câu hỏi

1:10	as well as the answer.	cũng như trả lời.

1:16	Your particular question	Câu hỏi riêng của bạn
	may not be answered,	chắc không được trả lời

1:21	because there are	bởi có quá nhiều
	too many of them	để đào sâu từng câu

1:23	to go into each one,

1:29	but I think we have	nhưng tôi nghĩ ít
	more or less chosen,	nhiều chúng ta chọn lựa

1:35	or gathered together,	hay tập hợp
	representative questions	những câu tiêu biểu

1:40	out of that 140.	từ 140 câu ấy.

1:45	So I hope	Nên hy vọng bạn
	you will not mind	sẽ không phiền

1:47	if your particular	nếu câu hỏi của bạn
	question is not answered.	không được trả lời.

1:56	Most of us,	Đa số chúng ta ngại
	I'm afraid,

1:59	ask questions	hỏi và cố gắng tìm
		trả lời nơi người khác.

2:05	and try to find an answer
	from others.

2:13	When we do put	Khi chúng ta đặt câu hỏi
	a question

2:18	one must find out	phải tìm xem tại sao hỏi.
	why we put them.

2:23	Is it a genuine,	Là câu hỏi chân thực,
		nghiêm túc, có ích?

2:25	serious applicable
	question?

2:29	Or just a fanciful	Hay chỉ là câu
	question,	hỏi tưởng tượng

2:34	and therefore no answer	và vì thế không
	that can be	thể trả lời

2:39	properly correct	thực và đúng đắn?
	and true?

2:43	But as we said, we are	Nhưng như đã nói,
	going to share together	chúng ta cùng chia sẻ

2:45	the questions	câu hỏi và trả lời.
	and the answers.

2:49	And I hope that we can	Và hy vọng chúng ta
	do that this morning.	có thể làm sáng nay.

3:09	I hope you are not	Mong bạn không quá nóng.
	too hot.

3:13	The speaker has said	Người nói có nói là
		đến văn phòng mỗi ngày

3:16	that going to an office
	every day

3:19	from nine to five	từ chín đến năm giờ
		là ở tù không chịu nổi.

3:21	is an intolerable
	imprisonment.

3:24	But in any society	Nhưng trong xã hội mọi
	all kinds of jobs	công việc phải được làm.

3:29	have to be done.

3:32	Is K's teaching therefore	Nên giáo lý K chỉ
	only for the few?	dành cho số ít?

3:38	You have understood?	Bạn hiểu không?
	Shall I read it again?	Tôi đọc lại chứ?

3:50	The speaker has said	Người nói có nói
		xã hội con người

3:53	that human society

3:56	is so constructed	được tổ chức
	throughout the world	trên khắp thế giới

4:00	that most people	đa số người bận
		rộn với công việc

4:03	are occupied with jobs,

4:07	pleasant or unpleasant,	dễ chịu hay không, từ 9 đến
		5 giờ mỗi ngày cả đời họ.

4:09	from 9 to 5
	every day of their life.

4:16	And he said also	Và anh ta cũng nói đó
		là ở tù không chịu nổi.

4:17	that it is an intolerable
	imprisonment.

4:24	I don't know	Không biết bạn
	how you feel about it.	cảm thấy thế nào.

4:27	Probably you like	Có lẽ bạn thích ở trong tù
	being in prison,

4:30	probably you like	hay bạn thích công việc
	your jobs,	từ chín đến năm giờ

4:33	from 9 o'clock
	to 5 five o'clock,

4:35	rushing, rushing back,	vội vội vàng vàng, và v.v..
	and all the rest of it.

4:41	What shall we do?	Chúng ta sẽ làm gì?

4:47	To the speaker,	Người nói không
	he wouldn't tolerate it	chịu đựng nổi

4:52	for a single minute	lấy một phút
	- for the speaker.	- người nói thôi.

4:56	I would rather do something	Tôi nên làm việc
	which would be pleasant,	gì đó dễ chịu

5:01	helpful and necessary	có ích và cần thiết
		để kiếm tiền, v.v..

5:04	to earn enough
	money, and so on.

5:08	But most of us	Nhưng đa số chấp
	accept this prison,	nhận nhà tù

5:12	this routine.	lối mòn
		- phải không?

5:18	Right?

5:20	You understand?	Hiểu chứ? Chúng
	We accept it.	ta chấp nhận.

5:22	So what shall we do?	Vậy chúng ta sẽ làm gì?

5:29	Nobody,	Đến nổi không ai có
		thể quan sát đầy đủ

5:32	as far as one is capable
	of sufficient...

5:37	efficient observation,	hiệu quả, không ai
		thắc mắc việc này hết.

5:40	nobody has
	questioned this.

5:44	We say it is normal,	Chúng ta nói nó bình thường

5:47	it is the way of society,	xã hội thế mà,
	it is the way of our life,	đời sống vậy mà

5:51	it is the way	chúng ta phải sống thế.
	we must live.

5:54	But if we all see	Nhưng nếu chúng ta
	together	cùng nhìn nhà tù ấy

5:58	that such
	an imprisonment,

6:03	which it is actually,	thực tế ấy, chúng ta

6:07	that we all feel it is intolerable,	cảm thấy không thể chịu
	not just verbally	nổi, không chỉ bằng lời

6:11	but actually,	mà thực sự sẽ làm gì đó
	do something about it,

6:14	we will create a new society,	sẽ xây dựng xã hội mới
	right?	- phải không?

6:18	We will, if all of us,	Sẽ làm, nếu tất cả
		không chịu đựng nổi

6:22	say we will not
	tolerate

6:24	for a single day	lối mòn ấy dù một ngày

6:28	this routine,
	this monstrous

6:34	activity of nine	hoạt động kinh
	to five,	khủng từ 9 đến 5 giờ

6:37	however necessary,	dù cần thiết, tốt
	however good and pleasant,	và dễ chịu thế nào

6:41	then we will bring about	rồi chúng ta sẽ
	not only	làm, không chỉ

6:45	psychological revolution,	cách mạng nội tâm
	but also outwardly.	mà cả bên ngoài.

6:50	Right?	Phải không?

6:53	We may agree about this,	Chúng ta có thể đồng
	but will we do it?	ý, nhưng sẽ làm chứ?

6:59	You might say,	Hay bạn nói,
	'No, I can't do it because	'Không, tôi không thể

7:01	I have responsibility,	bởi tôi còn trách nhiệm

7:04	I have children,	tôi còn con, còn
		nhà, tiền thế chấp

7:07	I have a house
	and mortgage,

7:10	insurance'	bảo hiểm
		- ơn trời, tôi không có gì hết!

7:13	- thank god, I haven't got
	any of those!

7:19	And so you might say,	Hoặc bạn có thể nói

7:21	'Well, it is easy for you	'Ngài nói thì dễ thôi'
	to talk about all this.'

7:31	But it is easy for the speaker	Nhưng với người
	to talk about it	nói thì dễ dàng

7:33	because he refuses	bởi anh ta từ chối
	to go in that pattern.	đi theo khuôn mẫu.

7:38	From boyhood	Hắn từ chối từ thuở nhỏ.
	he refused it.

7:45	Now if we all consider	Giờ nếu chúng ta xem xét

7:48	that such a psychological	cuộc cách mạng
	as well as	nội tâm cũng như

7:54	physical revolution	cách mạng vật
	of this kind,	lý thuộc loại

7:56	not bloody,	không đổ máu ấy,
	and all the rest of it,	v.v.., rồi thì

8:00	then we'll create quite	chúng ta sẽ tạo ra một xã
	a different society,	hội khác hẳn, phải không?

8:05	won't we?

8:09	You want others	Bạn muốn kẻ khác
	to create the society,	tạo ra xã hội ấy

8:13	and you can then	và bạn có thể lẻn vào.
	slip into it.

8:16	That's what we are	Đó là việc
	all waiting for.	chúng ta đợi chờ.

8:21	A few struggle,	Vài người đấu tranh,
	work, create,	làm việc, xây dựng

8:28	and refuse to enter	và từ chối vào
	into this rat race,	loài chuột ấy

8:34	and the others say,	và những người khác nói

8:35	'Yes, after you have constructed	'Vâng, sau khi ngài xây dựng
	what you think is right society	xã hội ngài cho là đúng đắn

8:40	then we'll join you'	chúng tôi sẽ đến'
		- nhưng chúng ta không cùng làm.

8:43	- but we don't do it
	together.

8:47	That is the whole	Đó là toàn bộ vấn đề.
	problem.

8:51	Right?	Phải không?

8:55	If we all had this,	Nếu chúng ta, không
		phải ý niệm mà thực

8:58	not idea
	but the fact,

9:01	that to spend our life

9:04	from nine o'clock	phí mất cả đời mình
	to five o'clock,	từ chín đến năm giờ

9:07	probably before that,	hay là trước đó

9:09	every day of our life	mỗi ngày đời mình
	for 60 years and more,	suốt 60 năm hay hơn

9:17	we would do	chúng ta có thể làm gì đó.
	something about it.

9:21	Like, as if you refuse	Nếu như bạn từ
	to have wars	chối chiến tranh

9:27	- you understand? -	bạn hiểu
	wars, killing other people	- chiến tranh, giết người

9:32	in the name of your	dưới danh nghĩa
	country, your God,	quốc gia, thượng đế

9:36	whatever the ideal is,	bất kỳ lý tưởng gì, nếu
		bạn từ chối giết người

9:38	if you all refused
	to kill another,

9:41	there would be no wars.	chắc không có chiến tranh
		- phải không?

9:45	Right?

9:47	But we have constructed	Nhưng chúng xây dựng xã hội
	a society,

9:50	built a society,	tạo xã hội
	based on violence,	dựa trên bạo lực

9:57	armaments,	vũ khí, mỗi nước lo tự vệ

9:59	each nation
	protecting itself

10:03	against other nations,	chống nước khác, và chúng
		ta kéo dài chiến tranh

10:06	and so we are
	perpetuating wars,

10:09	killing your sons,	giết con trai,
	your daughters, everything.	con gái, mọi thứ.

10:14	And we support it.	Và chúng ta ủng hộ.

10:18	In the same way	Cũng thế, chúng ta ủng
	we support,	hộ, duy trì nhà tù này.

10:21	maintain this
	imprisonment.

10:28	It may be pleasant for those	Có lẽ dễ chịu cho ai
	who have an agreeable job,	có công việc thuận lợi

10:33	but those who refuse	nhưng người từ
	to enter this game,	chối vào trò chơi

10:38	they will act,	họ sẽ hành động,
	they will do something.	sẽ làm gì đó.

10:42	So the problem is,	Nên vấn đề là

10:45	do we see	chúng ta có thấy quan trọng
	the importance,

10:50	or the necessity,	hay cần thiết thay đổi?
	of this change?

10:57	After all,	Tóm lại, tâm trí
		con người không chỉ

11:00	the human mind
	is not merely

11:05	occupied	bận rộn với công việc
	with a particular job,	riêng, dễ chịu hay không.

11:08	pleasant or unpleasant.

11:11	The human mind has	Tâm trí con người
	the quality of other things	còn có đặc tính khác

11:21	which we disregard.	chúng ta không để ý.

11:26	We are concerned	Chúng ta quan tâm
	with the whole of life,	cả đời sống chứ

11:28	not just a career,	không chỉ nghề nghiệp, 9 đến 5 giờ
	nine to five	- sống thế nào

11:32	- how we live,

11:34	what we do,	làm gì, suy nghĩ gì

11:36	what our thinking is,

11:39	whether there is affection,	có cảm xúc, lo
	care, love, compassion.	lắng, yêu thương chăng.

11:43	All that is part of life.	Mọi cái đó là
		thành phần đời sống.

11:48	But we are	Nhưng chúng ta bị qui định
	so conditioned

11:51	to this idea	với ý niệm rằng
	that we must work	chúng ta phải làm việc

11:59	and create a structure	và xây dựng cấu trúc

12:02	of a society that demands	xã hội, nên đòi
	that you work	hỏi bạn làm việc

12:07	from morning	từ sáng đến tối.
	till night.

12:13	The speaker refuses	Người nói từ chối
	to enter that rat race.	vào loài chuột ấy.

12:20	It isn't that he has got	Không phải hắn
	certain gifts,	có của trời cho

12:24	or that somebody	hay ai đó chăm sóc hắn
	will look after him,

12:28	but he refuses	nhưng hắn từ chối vào đó.
	to enter that.

12:31	I wouldn't go	Tôi không sống dù một ngày
	for a single day

12:35	from nine to five	từ 9 đến 5 giờ cho
	for anybody, for anything.	ai hay cho việc gì.

12:43	I might die,	Tôi có thể chết,
	but I wouldn't do that.	nhưng không làm thế.

12:48	In the same way, I wouldn't kill	Cũng thế, tôi
	another human being,	không giết ai hết

12:52	whatever	bất kỳ trường hợp nào.
	the circumstances.

12:54	I know what you	Tôi biết bạn sẽ nói
	are going to say,

12:56	'What if your sister	'Nếu em ngài bị
	is attacked?'	đánh thì sao?'

12:58	you know all that game.	bạn biết mọi trò chơi.

13:06	Because violence produces	Bởi vì bạo lực
	more violence.	gây thêm bạo lực.

13:11	You are seeing that	Bạn thấy đó ở Ailen.
	in Ireland.

13:18	But we are all	Nhưng chúng ta quá nhút nhát
	so timid,

13:24	we are all so nervous,	chúng ta quá lo
	frightened, anxious,	lắng, sợ hãi, âu lo

13:28	we want security	muốn an toàn, cái chúng ta
	which we think we have,	nghĩ mình có, nhưng không có.

13:32	which we haven't got.

13:37	So will you	Vậy bạn sẽ đào sâu
	go into this

13:45	and find out	và tìm xem bạn có thể
		thoát khỏi loài chuột ấy

13:48	if you can
	free yourself

13:51	from that rat race,

13:56	and to find out,	và để tìm kiếm, bạn phải
		sử dụng năng lực, thông minh

13:59	one must exercise
	capacity, intelligence,

14:03	not say,	đừng nói, 'Tôi không làm'.
	'I won't do it.'

14:07	You don't do it	Bạn không làm bởi
	because you are intelligent,	vì bạn thông minh

14:12	not because	chứ không vì bạn được bảo
	you are told,

14:14	or you have read in some book,	hay bạn đã đọc sách
	or some philosopher.	nào, triết gia nào.

14:19	I think	Tôi nghĩ vậy là rất rõ.
	it is very clear.

14:25	And also	Và bạn cũng hỏi:
	the questioner asks:

14:30	are K's teachings therefore	vậy giáo lý K chỉ
	only for the few?	dành cho số ít?

14:36	This is one	Đây là câu hỏi được hỏi
	of the questions	đi hỏi lại nhiều rồi.

14:38	that is asked
	over and over again.

14:47	What do you think?	Bạn nghĩ sao?

14:53	If it is for the few,	Nếu dành cho số ít
	it's not worth it.	thì không giá trị gì.

14:57	Wait a minute,	Đợi chút, đi chậm thôi.
	just go slowly.

15:01	The speaker says	Người nói nói nó
	it is for everyone.	dành cho mọi người.

15:08	But everyone	Nhưng mọi người
	is not serious,	không nghiêm túc

15:19	has not got the energy, because	không có năng lực, bởi họ
	he is dissipating it in various ways.	phân tán nó trong nhiều hướng.

15:25	And so gradually,	Và dần dà còn có vài người
		- kịp không?

15:30	there are very few.

15:33	You follow?

15:39	So, observing it, you say	Nên thấy thế, bạn nói
	it is only for the few.	nó chỉ dành cho số ít.

15:44	Whereas actually,	Ngược lại thực sự
	if you apply,	nếu bạn áp dụng

15:47	go into it seriously,	tìm hiểu nghiêm túc
		với tinh thần tìm kiếm

15:49	with the spirit
	of investigation

15:52	and wanting to live
	a different kind of life,

15:55	it is for everyone.	và muốn sống một đời khác
		hẳn, nó dành cho mọi người.

15:59	There is nothing	Không có gì bí mật cả.
	secret about it.

16:05	But there is	Nhưng có biết bao bí ẩn
	great mystery,

16:07	if you go beyond	nếu bạn vượt khỏi
	the limitation of thought.	giới hạn của suy tư.

16:13	But we don't do	Nhưng chúng ta không
	any of these things,	làm mấy việc này

16:14	we don't test it out,	không thử nghiệm,
	we don't apply,	không áp dụng

16:17	we don't eat the food	không ăn mà chỉ để
	that is put before us.	thức ăn trước mặt.

16:24	And the few that eat it	Và vài người ăn nói,
		'Chúng tôi là tinh hoa'.

16:27	say, 'We are the elite.'

16:32	They actually	Họ thực sự
	are not the elite,	không phải tinh hoa

16:34	they are only the serious people	họ chỉ là những người
	that have applied,	nghiêm túc áp dụng

16:38	thought about it,	suy tư, tìm tòi, thấy rằng
	gone into it,

16:43	seeing that it affects	nó tác động đời
	their daily life.	sống họ hàng ngày.

16:48	It is only then	Chỉ thế mới có thể xây
	one can create	dựng một xã hội khác hẳn.

16:52	a different
	kind of society.

17:01	Isn't insight intuition?	Thấu hiểu là trực giác?

17:06	Would you discuss	Ngài có thể nói về
	this sudden clarity	tỏ sáng thình lình ấy.

17:09	some of us have?

17:12	What do you mean	Ý ngài thấu hiểu là gì
	by insight,

17:14	and is it	và nó là tạm thời
	a momentary thing,	hay có thể liên tục?

17:19	or can it be
	continuous?

17:23	Shall I read that question again?	Tôi đọc lại câu hỏi
	Q:Yes.	chứ? Khán giả:Vâng.

17:28	Isn't insight intuition?	Thấu hiểu là trực giác?

17:34	You have heard	Tôi chắc bạn đã
	these two words, I am sure.	nghe hai chữ này.

17:37	Would you discuss	Ngài có thể nói về
	this sudden clarity	tỏ sáng thình lình ấy.

17:41	some of us have?

17:43	What do you mean	Ý ngài thấu hiểu là gì
	by insight,

17:47	and is it	và nó là tạm thời
	a momentary thing,	hay có thể liên tục?

17:50	or can it be
	continuous?

17:54	Right?

18:05	In the various talks	Trong nhiều buổi nói
	the speaker has given	chuyện, người nói

18:10	he has used	anh ta đã dùng
	the word 'insight.'	chữ 'thấu hiểu'.

18:16	That is,	Nghĩa là nhìn
	to see into things,	thấu vào sự vật

18:22	into the whole	vào toàn bộ vận hành suy tư
	movement of thought,

18:27	into the whole movement,	vào toàn bộ vận hành
	for example, of jealousy.	của ghen tị, ví dụ.

18:33	To perceive	Nhận hiểu bản chất của tham
	the nature of greed,

18:38	to see the whole	thấy toàn thể
	content of sorrow.	tích chứa đau khổ.

18:45	Not analysis,	Không phân tích

18:50	not exercise	không dùng năng lực lý trí
	of intellectual capacity,

18:57	nor is it the result	không phải kết
	of knowledge,	quả của kiến thức

19:05	knowledge being that	kiến thức là
	which has been accumulated	cái được gom góp

19:08	through the past	qua kinh nghiệm cũ,
	as experience,	lưu lại trong não

19:12	stored up in the brain,

19:14	therefore knowledge	thế nên kiến thức
		luôn đi cùng đốt nát.

19:16	always goes
	with ignorance.

19:20	There is no complete	Không có kiến thức trọn vẹn
	knowledge,

19:25	therefore there is always	thế nên luôn luôn có
	knowledge and ignorance	kiến thức và dốt nát

19:29	like two horses,	như hai con ngựa cột chung.

19:33	tethered.

19:39	So, then what is	Vậy thấu hiểu là gì?
	insight?

19:42	You understand	Bạn hiểu câu hỏi
	my question?	chứ? Theo kịp không?

19:44	You are following this?

19:47	Please, it is	Một buổi sáng nóng nực
	a hot morning,

19:49	but it doesn't matter,	nhưng không hề gì.
	a little bit.

19:59	If the observation is not based	Nếu quan sát không
	on knowledge,	dựa vào kiến thức

20:04	or on intellectual	hay khả năng lý
	capacity of reasoning,	trí để lý luận

20:10	exploring,	tìm tòi, phân tích,
		vậy nó là gì?

20:17	analysing,

20:19	then what is it?

20:22	That is the whole	Đó là toàn bộ vấn đề.
	question.

20:24	And the questioner	Và bạn cũng hỏi:
	asks also:	phải nó là trực giác?

20:27	is it intuition?

20:31	That word 'intuition'	Chữ 'trực giác' là
	is rather a tricky word	một từ khá rắc rối

20:38	because many of us	vì quá nhiều
	use that word.	người dùng nó.

20:46	The actuality of intuition	Thực tế trực giác có thể
	may be the result of desire.	là kết quả của ý muốn.

20:53	One may desire	Bạn có thể muốn điều gì
	something

20:56	and then a few days later	và rồi ít lâu sau bạn
	you have an intuition about it.	có trực giác về nó.

21:01	And you think that intuition	Và bạn nghĩ rằng trực
	is most extraordinarily important.	giác là cực kỳ quan trọng.

21:06	But if you go into it	Nhưng nếu đi sâu hơn một chút
	rather deeply,

21:09	you may find	bạn có thể thấy nó
	that it is based	dựa vào ý muốn, sợ hãi

21:11	on desire, on fear,

21:14	on various forms	những thú vui khác nhau.
	of pleasure.

21:17	So one is rather	Vậy bạn nên dè
	doubtful about that word,	chừng chữ ấy

21:22	specially used by those people	đặc biệt được dùng bởi
	who are rather romantic,	những người khá lãng mạn

21:27	who are rather	người nhiều tưởng tượng,
	imaginative,	cảm xúc và muốn điều gì.

21:29	sentimental and
	wanting something.

21:36	And they would certainly	Và chắc là họ
	have intuitions,	có trực giác

21:39	but it may be based	nhưng có thể nó dựa vào
	on some	vài ý muốn, dĩ nhiên tự gạt.

21:42	obvious
	self-deceptive desire.

21:48	So for the moment we can put	Nên lúc này chúng ta có
	aside intuition, that word.	thể dẹp chữ ấy sang bên.

21:54	I hope I am not	Hy vọng tôi không
	hurting anybody	tổn thương ai

21:58	who is caught	bị kẹt vào trực giác.
	in intuitions.

22:06	And if that is not so,	Và nếu không phải,
	then what is insight?	vậy thấu hiểu là gì?

22:12	That is, to perceive	Nghĩa là, nhận hiểu
	something instantly,	điều gì tức thì

22:17	which must be true,	mà phải thực, hợp lý,
		lành mạnh, phải lẽ.

22:20	logical, sane,
	rational.

22:26	You understand?	Hiểu không?

22:29	And that insight	Và thấu hiểu phải
	must act instantly.	hành động ngay.

22:36	It isn't that	Chính vì không thấu hiểu
	I have an insight	nên không làm gì hết.

22:38	and do nothing
	about it.

22:43	If I have an insight,	Nếu tôi thấu hiểu

22:46	if one has an insight	nếu bạn thấu hiểu toàn
		bộ bản chất của suy tư

22:48	into the whole nature
	of thinking

22:52	- you understand? -	hiểu chứ?

22:54	that is, I will explain	tức là, tôi sẽ giải
	a little bit about thinking.	thích đôi chút về suy tư.

22:58	Thinking is the response	Suy tư là trả
	of memory.	lời của ký ức.

23:04	Memory is the result	Ký ức là kết
	of experience,	quả của kinh nghiệm

23:10	knowledge,	kiến thức, được
	stored up in the brain.	lưu trong não.

23:15	And the memory	Và ký ức trả lời.
	responds.

23:19	Where do you live?	Bạn sống ở đâu?
	You answer.	Bạn trả lời.

23:23	What is your name?	Bạn tên gì?

23:25	There's immediate response.	Có câu trả lời
	And so on.	ngay. Và v.v..

23:29	Thought is the result,	Suy tư là kết
	or the response,	quả hay trả lời

23:33	of the accumulated experience,	của tích chứa kinh nghiệm,
	knowledge as memory.	kiến thức như ký ức.

23:38	That is simple.	Đơn giản thế.

23:42	So, that thought,	Vậy, suy tư dựa trên, hay
	based upon,	kết quả của kiến thức

23:47	or the outcome,
	of knowledge,

23:49	that thought	suy tư giới hạn, bởi
	is limited,	kiến thức giới hạn.

23:52	because knowledge
	is limited.

23:57	So thought can never	Nên suy tư không hề đầy đủ.
	be all-inclusive.

24:05	It must always be	Nó luôn là thành
	partial, limited,	phần, giới hạn

24:09	based on knowledge	dựa trên kiến
	and ignorance.	thức và dốt nát.

24:13	Therefore it is	Thế nên nó mãi mãi
	everlastingly

24:18	confined, limited,	giới hạn, hẹp hòi
	narrow.	- phải không?

24:22	Right?

24:24	Now, to have	Ngay lúc thấu
	an insight into that,	hiểu nó, nghĩa là

24:28	which means,

24:31	is there an action	có hành động,
		không phải chỉ là

24:35	which is not merely

24:37	the repetition	sự lặp lại của suy tư
	of thought	- bạn theo kịp chứ?

24:40	- you're following
	all this? -

24:42	to have an insight	thấu hiểu về tổ
	into, say,	chức, lấy ví dụ thế.

24:45	organisations,	Phải không?
	let's take that.

24:52	Right?	Thấu hiểu nó
	To have an insight into it.

24:55	Which means	tức là bạn quan
	that you are	sát không có ký ức

24:57	observing without
	memory,

25:01	remembrances,	nhớ lại, không tranh
		cãi, thuận và chống

25:03	without argumentation,
	pros and cons,

25:08	just to see	chỉ nhìn toàn thể vận hành
	the whole movement

25:13	and the demand	và đòi hỏi cho tổ chức.
	for organisation.

25:18	Then you have	Rồi thì bạn thấu hiểu nó
	an insight into it,

25:20	and from that insight	và từ thấu hiểu
	you act.	ấy bạn hành động.

25:25	And that action	Và hành động ấy hợp
	is logical,	lý, sáng suốt, lành mạnh.

25:31	is sane, healthy.

25:34	It is not -	Chính vì không thấu hiểu
	you have an insight

25:37	and then you act	bạn hành động đối nghịch,
	the opposite,	đó không phải thấu hiểu.

25:40	then it is not insight.

25:43	I wonder if you are	Không biết bạn
	getting all this?	hiểu hết chăng?

25:47	Sorry to be	Xin lỗi đã quá nhấn mạnh.
	so emphatic.

25:51	That's my way	Đó là cách tôi làm.
	of doing it.

26:00	To have an insight,	Ví dụ, thấu hiểu
	for example,

26:03	into the wounds, hurts	đau đớn, tổn thương
		bạn đã chịu từ bé.

26:06	that one has received
	from childhood.

26:10	You understand	Bạn hiểu vấn đề chứ?
	my question?

26:14	We are all people	Tất cả chúng ta đều bị
	who are hurt	tổn thương vì nhiều lý do

26:19	for various reasons,

26:22	from childhood	từ bé cho đến khi chết, vết
	till we die	thương tâm lý ấy trong chúng ta.

26:25	there is this wound in us,
	psychologically.

26:30	Now, to have an insight	Giờ thì thấu hiểu

26:32	into the whole nature	toàn bộ bản chất và
	and structure of that hurt.	cấu trúc tổn thương ấy.

26:38	Do you understand	Bạn hiểu lời tôi chứ?
	what I'm saying?

26:40	Are you following	Bạn theo kịp không?
	all this?

26:44	You are hurt,	Bạn bị tổn
	aren't you, sirs?	thương, phải không?

26:46	Wounded	vết thương tâm lý?
	psychologically?

26:52	Play the game with me,	Cùng vào chơi với
	will you also?	tôi, nếu thích.

26:56	The ball is	Banh ở phía sân bạn.
	in your court.

27:03	You are hurt,	Dĩ nhiên bạn bị tổn thương.
	obviously.

27:10	You may go to a psychologist,	Bạn có thể đến nhà tâm
	analyst, psychotherapist,	lý, phân tâm, trị liệu tâm lý

27:15	and they trace	và họ chỉ ra tại sao
	why you are hurt, from childhood,	bạn bị tổn thương, từ bé

27:19	your mother was this	mẹ bạn làm này,
	and your father was that,	hay cha bạn làm nọ

27:21	or you are put	hay bạn đặt cược thua
	on the wrong pot,

27:23	or the right pot, and so on,	hoặc đặt cược
	so on, so on. (Laughter)	thắng, v.v.. (Cười)

27:26	Don't please.	Thôi nhé. Tìm hiểu đi.
	Go into it.

27:34	And by merely looking,	Và chỉ nhìn, hay
	or seeking out the cause,	tìm ra nguyên nhân

27:39	the hurt is not going	tổn thương sẽ không
	to be resolved.	được giải quyết.

27:41		Phải không?

27:42	Right?	Nó đó.
	It is there.

27:47	And the consequences	Và hậu quả của
	of that hurt is	tổn thương là

27:53	isolation, fear,	cô lập, sợ hãi, chống đối
	resistance,

27:57	and not to be hurt more,	và không để tổn thương
		nữa, nên tự đóng kín.

27:59	therefore
	self-enclosure.

28:02	You know all this.	Bạn biết hết.

28:05	That's the whole movement	Đó là toàn bộ vận
	of being hurt.	hành của tổn thương.

28:09	The hurt is the image	Tổn thương là hình ảnh

28:11	that you have created	bạn tạo ra cho
		mình về chính mình.

28:14	for yourself
	about yourself.

28:16	You understand?	Hiểu chứ? Phải không?
	Right?

28:21	So, as long as	Hễ hình ảnh ấy còn thì
	that image remains	bạn còn tổn thương, dĩ nhiên.

28:24	you will be hurt,
	obviously.

28:28	Now, to have an insight	Giờ thì thấu hiểu hết
	into all that,	chúng mà không phân tích

28:31	without analysis,

28:36	to see it instantly,	thấy nó tức thì

28:40	and the very perception	và nhận thức
	of that insight,	của thấu hiểu ấy

28:44	which demands all your	đòi hỏi cả chú tâm và năng
	attention and energy,	lực bạn, tổn thương chảy tan.

28:47	the hurt is dissolved.

28:49	And therefore,
	when it is dissolved,

28:52	there is no further hurt.	Và vì nó chảy tan nên
		không còn tổn thương nữa.

28:55	I wonder if you get	Bạn có hiểu hết không?
	all this?

29:03	If one may ask	Nếu hỏi thật lịch sự
	most politely,

29:10	you have heard this,	bạn đã nghe,
		bạn có thấu hiểu

29:12	have you got
	that insight

29:15	that will dissolve	xóa sạch tổn thương,
	your hurt completely,	không lưu lại dấu vết, nên

29:20	leaving no mark

29:22	and therefore	không tổn thương nữa, không
	no more hurt,	ai có thể tổn thương bạn.

29:24	nobody can hurt you.

29:26	You understand?	Hiểu chứ? Tổn thương bạn.
	Hurt you.

29:28	Because the image	Bởi hình ảnh bạn tạo ra về
		chính mình là không có thực.

29:30	that you have created about
	yourself is non-existent.

29:34	Are you following	Bạn theo kịp không?
	all this?

29:37	Are you doing it?	Bạn làm chứ?

29:38	Or are you just	Hay là bạn chỉ
	merely verbally	chú ý đến từ ngữ?

29:41	paying attention
	to the words?

30:00	Q:I don't really understand	Q:Tôi thực không
	what you mean	hiểu ý ngài khi

30:04	when you say	ngài nói chúng ta
		tạo ra tổn thương ấy.

30:08	we have created
	this hurt.

30:25	K:First of all,	K:Trước hết, ai tổn thương?
	who is hurt?

30:29	What do you mean	Ý bạn tổn thương là gì?
	by being hurt?

30:37	Sir, what do you mean	Tổn thương theo
	by being hurt?	bạn nghĩa là sao?

30:40	You say, 'I am hurt,'	Bạn nói, 'tôi bị tổn thương'

30:43	consciously you are aware of it	bạn biết một cách
	or not. One is hurt.	ý thức hay không?

30:47	Now, what is that	Bạn bị tổn thương.
	which is being hurt?

30:52	Do you understand	Cái gì bị tổn thương?
	my question?

30:54	Do you understand, sir?	Bạn hiểu câu hỏi
		chứ? Bạn hiểu không?

30:55	What is that	Cái gì bị tổn thương?
	which is hurt?

31:01	You say, 'It's me.'	Bạn nói, 'là tôi'.

31:04	What is that 'me'?	'Tôi' là gì?

31:07	It is the image	Là hình ảnh bạn
	you have about yourself.	có về chính mình.

31:12	If I have an image	Nếu tôi có hình ảnh
	about myself as a marvellous	về mình là tuyệt vời

31:15	spiritual, blah, blah	tâm linh, v.v..
	- eh? -	- gì nào?

31:20	and you come along	và bạn đến và nói
	and say,

31:21	'No, you are a silly ass'	'Không, ngài là tên ngốc'
	- I get hurt. (Laughter)	- tôi bị tổn thương. (Cười)

31:28	That is, thought	Tức là, suy nghĩ
	- please follow this -	- theo dõi nhé

31:31	thought has created	suy nghĩ tạo ra một
	an image	hình ảnh về mình

31:34	about oneself

31:38	and that image	và hình ảnh
	is always comparing:	ấy luôn so sánh:

31:47	my image is better	hình ảnh tôi đẹp
	than your image,	hơn hình ảnh bạn

31:50	and so on, so on,	và v.v.., v.v..
	so on.

31:53	So, as long as	Nên hễ còn hình
	one has this image	ảnh về mình

31:57	about oneself,

31:59	it is going to be trodden on	thì nó sẽ còn
	by somebody.	bị ai đó giẫm lên.

32:04	And that is called	Và đó gọi là tổn
	hurt,	thương, vết thương tâm lý.

32:08	wounds,
	psychologically.

32:12	To have an insight	Thấu hiểu nó, nghĩa là
	into that

32:14	means to see	thấy toàn thể vận hành
	the whole movement,

32:20	the cause	nguyên nhân và hình ảnh
	and the image,

32:25	and therefore the very	và chính nhận thức
	perception of it ends the image.	ấy chấm dứt hình ảnh.

32:30	Do you understand this?	Bạn hiểu không? Không. Không?

32:32	No. No?

32:40	It's so hot.	Trời nóng quá.

32:45	Sorry about the comb	Xin lỗi về cái lược
	- I forgot.	- tôi quên.

33:01	You say that organisations	Ngài nói tổ chức
	will not help man	không giúp con người tìm

33:05	to find what we,	cái người Cơ đốc
	Christians, call salvation.	gọi là cứu rỗi.

33:12	So why do you have	Vậy tại sao ngài
	your own organisations?	có tổ chức riêng?

33:18	You say that organisations	Ngài nói tổ chức
	will not help man	không giúp con người tìm

33:23	to find what we,	cái người Cơ đốc
	Christians, call salvation.	gọi là cứu rỗi.

33:27	So why do you have	Vậy tại sao ngài
	your own organisations?	có tổ chức riêng?

33:42	In 1925	Năm 1925
		- có lẽ vài bạn chưa được sinh ra

33:45	- perhaps some of you
	weren't born even -

33:48	In 1925 the speaker	Năm 1925 người nói đứng đầu
	was the head	một tổ chức rất là lớn.

33:52	of a very big
	vast organisation.

33:56	He was the head of it,	Anh ta đứng đầu

33:58	and they looked up	và họ tôn kính anh ta với lòng mộ đạo
	to him	- bạn biết đó

34:01	with devotion
	- you know, all that stuff,

34:04	candles, and all that.	mọi lộn xộn, đèn
	(Laughter)	nến, mọi thứ! (Cười)

34:08	Please, don't laugh,	Xin đừng cười, chúng
	we are just stating facts.	ta chỉ nói sự kiện.

34:18	And it was considered	Và nó được xem như
	a spiritual organisation,	một tổ chức tâm linh

34:21	a religious organisation.	một tổ chức tôn giáo.

34:25	And in 1925, or	Và vào năm 1925
	was it 28, or 29	- hay 28 hoặc 29, tôi quên mất

34:29	- I have forgotten,	không quan trọng
	it is not important -

34:34	that organisation called	tổ chức ấy gọi là
	'The Order of the Star'	'Trật Tự Ngôi Sao'

34:37	was dissolved	người nói đã giải tán
	by the speaker,

34:40	because he said that	bởi anh ta nói bất kỳ
	any spiritual organisation	tổ chức tâm linh nào

34:44	of any kind	đều không phải tâm linh.
	is not spiritual.

34:50	And he dissolved	Và anh ta giải tán tổ chức
	that organisation,

34:53	returned the properties,	trả lại của cải,
	the whole works of it.	toàn bộ cơ sở.

35:00	Now, he has
	- not he has -

35:04	there are several	Giờ anh ta có - không phải
	Foundations,	anh ta có - có vài Học viện

35:10	one in India,	một ở Ấn, một ở
		đây, Mỹ và Canada.

35:12	one in this country,

35:15	America, and Canada.

35:19	In India there are	Ở Ấn có năm trường học
	five schools,

35:23	in different parts	rải rác đây đó, với
	of that country,	đất đai rộng rãi.

35:27	with a great deal
	of land.

35:31	And they are schools,	Và đó là những trường

35:34	they are operated	dưới sự điều hành
	under the K Foundation,	của Học viện K

35:40	which is responsible	nơi chịu trách
	for the land	nhiệm về đất đai

35:42	to see that the schools	xem coi trường học đi
	are properly...	đúng hướng nhiều hay ít

35:45	more or less
	in the right direction

35:47	- less perhaps	chắc là ít rồi!
	than more.

35:51	And here also,	Và ở đây cũng có Học
		viện với một trường

35:54	there is a Foundation
	with a school,

35:58	and we are hoping the school	và chúng ta hy vọng trường
	will keep in the right direction.	học sẽ giữ đúng hướng.

36:03	And the Foundation is responsible	Và Học viện trách nhiệm
	to gather all these talks,	tổ chức các buổi nói chuyện

36:08	tapes, publish,	băng từ, xuất
	and so on, so on.	bản, v.v.., v.v..

36:11	And it is the same	Và cũng thế
	in America and in Canada.	ở Mỹ vả Canada.

36:15	There is nothing	Không có tâm linh gì cả.
	spiritual about it.

36:19	Right?	Đúng không? Chỉ
		làm chức năng.

36:22	They merely
	act as function.

36:26	They are necessary,	Chúng cần thiết,
		luật pháp yêu cầu thế.

36:29	the law demands it.

36:32	And to publish the books	Và xuất bản sách
	- you know, all the rest of it.	- bạn biết mà, v.v..

36:35	And to see that the teachings	Và xem xét giáo lý
	are kept fairly pure.	được giữ thuần chất.

36:39	That is the only function	Đó là chức năng duy nhất của những Học viện
	of these Foundations, right?	- phải không?

36:43	It has no other function.	Không có chức năng khác.

36:46	They are not spiritual bodies	Họ không phải nhóm tâm
	which you can join,	linh bạn có thể gia nhập

36:51	and attain nirvana,	và đạt Niết bàn,
	or heaven, or whatever it is.	hay Thiên đàng, v.v..

36:54	It is very simple, very clear.	Thật đơn giản, rõ
	Is that all right?	ràng. Vậy được chứ?

37:00	So don't please	Vậy lần tới đừng hỏi tại
	next time ask about	sao ngài có tổ chức nhé.

37:03	why do you have
	organisations.

37:06	It is very simple:	Rất đơn giản:
	there are schools,	trường học, xuất bản

37:12	they publish books,	sách, băng từ, xếp đặt
	tapes,	các buổi nói nơi tôi đến

37:14	arrange talks,
	wherever I go,

37:18	and some of them	và chăm nom người
		nói về vật chất

37:20	look after the speaker
	physically,

37:24	because the speaker	bởi người nói
	has no money.	không có tiền.

37:27	When the speaker is in India	Khi người nói ở
	they look after him,	Ấn, họ lo cho anh ta

37:30	here they look	ở đây, họ lo cho anh ta
	after him,

37:32	when the speaker is in America	khi người nói ở Mỹ,
	they do the same.	họ cũng làm thế.

37:36	Full stop.	Chấm hết. Xong chứ?
	Is that over?

37:38	That is finished,	Vậy là xong, phải không?
	isn't it?

37:40	Shall we go on	Chúng ta tiếp
	to the next question?	câu hỏi kế chứ?

38:02	Is sex incompatible	Tình dục không hợp
		với đời sống đạo?

38:06	with a religious life?

38:09	What place has	Quan hệ con người có vị
	human relationship	trí gì trong nổ lực tâm linh?

38:12	in spiritual endeavour?

38:16	Is sex incompatible	Tình dục không hợp
		với đời sống đạo?

38:20	with a religious life?

38:24	What place has	Quan hệ con người có vị
	human relationship	trí gì trong nổ lực tâm linh?

38:27	in spiritual endeavour?

38:52	First of all,	Trước hết

38:55	why have human beings,	tại sao con người trên
		khắp thế giới làm

38:58	right throughout
	the world

39:02	made sex so important	tình dục quá quan
	in their life?	trọng trong đời sống?

39:08	Do you understand	Bạn hiểu câu hỏi chứ?
	my question?

39:10	Why?	Tạo sao?

39:18	Now in the West	Giờ ở phương Tây
	it's permissive:	rất thoải mái

39:23	boys or girls	trai gái tuổi mười hai,
	of twelve, thirteen,	mười ba đã biết tình dục.

39:28	have already sex.

39:36	And one asks	Và bạn hỏi
	why have human beings	tại sao con người

39:41	throughout their activities,	tất cả hoạt
	throughout their lives	động, suốt đời họ

39:44	made this thing	làm điều này thành
	of such colossal importance?	quá quan trọng?

39:53	Go on, sirs, answer it.	Tiếp tục, trả lời đi.
	Put the question.

39:55		Đặt câu hỏi đi.

39:56	We are sharing the question	Chúng ta cùng chia sẻ câu hỏi
	together, right?	- phải không?

39:59	You are not just listening	Bạn không chỉ lắng
	to a Delphic Oracle,	nghe Tiên tri Delphy

40:03	but together	mà chúng ta cùng tìm tòi.
	we are investigating.

40:06	It's your life	Chúng ta nhìn vào
		chính đời bạn.

40:09	we are looking at.

40:14	There are those gurus,	Có những đạo sư

40:22	and there is a whole	và cả triết lý
	philosophy called Tantra,	gọi là Mật tông

40:27	part of it,	một phần thôi
	is based on sex.	- dựa trên tình dục.

40:31	That through sex	Qua tình dục bạn có
	you can reach God,	thể đến Thượng đế

40:36	whatever that God be.	dù Thượng đế là ai.

40:39	And that's very popular.	Và việc đó rất phổ thông.

40:48	And there are those,	Và có những
	like the monks,	người, như thầy tu

40:52	the Indian sanyasis,	sanyasis Ấn, và
	and the Buddhist priests,	thầy tu Phật giáo

40:57	have denied sex,	chối bỏ tình dục

41:02	because they have	bởi họ luôn cho rằng
	all maintained

41:07	that it's a waste	đó là phí năng lực
	of energy,

41:17	and to serve God	và để phuc vụ Thượng đế bạn
	you must come	phải đến với cả năng lực.

41:20	with all your energy.

41:23	Therefore deny,	Thế nên chối bỏ, loại
	suppress,	trừ, đốt cháy mình

41:27	burn inside yourself

41:31	with all the demands,	với mọi đòi hỏi, nhưng
		loại trừ, kiểm soát.

41:33	but suppress it,
	control it.

41:36	So you have	Vậy thì bạn có thoải mái,
	the permissive	và cái gọi là đè ép tôn giáo.

41:39	and the so-called
	religious suppression.

41:44	And those in between	Và người ở giữa
	who enjoy everything,	thì vui chơi mọi thứ

41:47	both sides, they have one foot	cả hai bên, họ đặt một chân
	in this and one foot in the other!	bên này và một chân bên kia.

41:54	Then they can talk	Rồi thì họ có
	about both things	thể nói về hai thứ

41:58	and see if they cannot	và xem coi họ có
	harmonise the two together	thể hòa điệu cả hai

42:02	and find God,	và tìm Thượng đế
	or whatever you want to find.	- hay gì đó bạn muốn tìm.

42:07	Probably you will find	Có thể cuối cùng bạn sẽ
	at the end of it a lot of nonsense.	tìm ra một mớ vô nghĩa!

42:11	So, we are asking:	Nên chúng ta hỏi:
		tại sao con người

42:13	why has man, woman

42:18	made this sex business	làm cho tình dục
	of such importance?	thành quan trọng thế?

42:26	Right?	Phải không?

42:29	Why don't you give	Tại sao bạn không
	the same importance	xem quan trọng như

42:34	to love	yêu thương
		- hiểu chứ?

42:37	- do you understand?

42:41	To compassion?	Như trắc ẩn?

42:44	To not kill?	Như không giết chóc?

42:47	Why do you give only	Tại sao bạn chỉ cho tình
	such immense value to sex?	dục giá trị lớn thế?

42:52	You are following	Bạn theo kịp lời tôi chứ?
	what I am saying?

42:54	You have wars, terrors,	Chiến tranh, khủng
		bố, phân chia quốc gia

42:58	national divisions,

43:02	the whole immoral society	cả xã hội vô đạo
	in which we live,	đức chúng ta sống

43:09	why don't you give	tại sao chúng ta không
	equal importance to all that,	xem quan trọng như nhau

43:14	and not only to this?	và không riêng việc đó?

43:16	You are following	Theo kịp câu hỏi
	my question? Why?	không? Tại sao?

43:25	Is it because sex	Phải chăng tình dục cho bạn
		vui thú lớn nhất trong đời?

43:28	is your greatest
	pleasure in life?

43:38	The rest of your life	Còn lại đời bạn
	is a bore,	là chán chường

43:44	a travail, a struggle,	khổ nhọc, đấu
	a conflict,	tranh, xung đột

43:50	meaningless existence?	cuộc sống vô nghĩa?

43:54	And this at least gives you	Và ít nhất nó cho
	a certain sense of	bạn chút ý nghĩa

43:59	great pleasure, a sense	về khoái lạc, ý nghĩa
	of well being, a sense of	hạnh phúc, ý nghĩa

44:03	- you know -	bạn biết cả
	what you call relationship	- điều bạn gọi là quan hệ

44:08	and what you also	và cũng gọi là yêu thương
	call love.	- phải không?

44:11	Right?

44:13	Is that the reason	Đó là lý do chúng ta
	why we are so sexually crazy?	quá điên cuồng tình dục?

44:18	Go on, sirs,	Tiếp tục, hãy tự trả lời.
	answer yourselves.

44:23	Because we are not free	Bởi chúng ta không
		tự do trong mọi hướng.

44:25	in any other direction.

44:29	We have to go to the office	Chúng ta phải đến văn
	from nine to five	phòng từ 9 đến 5 giờ

44:33	where you are bullied,	nơi chúng ta bị bắt nạt,
		nơi có mấy xếp ngồi trên

44:36	where there are
	bosses over you

44:38	- you know, all that	bạn biết mọi việc xảy
	happens in an office,	ra ở văn phòng, nhà máy

44:42	or in a factory,

44:44	or in another job where	hay công việc nào khác nơi
	there is somebody dominating you.	có ai đó thống trị bạn.

44:52	And our minds	Và trí óc chúng
	have become mechanical	ta thành máy móc

44:58	- are you following	bạn theo kịp chứ?
	all this?

45:04	We repeat, repeat,	Chúng ta cứ lặp đi lặp lại
	repeat.

45:11	We fall into a tradition,	Chúng ta rơi vào truyền
	into a groove, into a rut.	thống, lối cũ, khuôn mòn.

45:17	Our thinking is that:	Suy nghĩ chúng ta là:

45:20	I am a Christian,	Tôi là Cơ đốc, tôi là
	I am a Buddhist, I am a Hindu,	Phật giáo, tôi là Hin đu

45:22	I am a Catholic, I worship	Là Cơ đốc, tôi tôn thờ Giáo hoàng
	the Pope - you know,	- bạn biết

45:27	the whole thing is clearly	mọi việc được đánh dấu
	marked and you follow that.	rõ ràng và bạn cứ theo.

45:33	Or you reject all that	Hay bạn dẹp bỏ hết
		và tạo lối mòn riêng.

45:36	and form your
	own routine.

45:41	So our minds	Vậy tâm trí chúng ta thành
	have become

45:45	slaves to various patterns	nô lệ cho nhiều lối sống
	of existence.	- phải không?

45:50	Right?	Nên nó trở thành máy móc.
	So it has become mechanical.

45:56	And sex may be	Và tình dục có lẽ vui thú
	pleasurable,

46:01	and gradually that	và dần dà cũng
	too becomes mechanical.	thành máy móc.

46:07	So one asks,	Vậy nên hỏi

46:10	if you want to go	nếu muốn tìm hiểu
	very deeply into it,	thật sâu, bạn hỏi:

46:13	one asks:

46:14	Is love sex?	Tình dục là yêu thương?

46:21	Go on, ask it.	Tiếp tục, hỏi đi.

46:25	Is love pleasure?	Yêu thương là vui thú?

46:34	Is love desire?	Yêu thương là ước muốn?

46:38	Is love a remembrance	Yêu thương là
	of an incidence	nhớ lại biến cố

46:42	which you call sex,	bạn gọi là tình dục,
	with all the imagination,	với mọi tưởng tượng

46:45	the pictures, the thinking	hình ảnh, suy tư về
	about it, is that love?	nó, đó là yêu thương?

46:51	Oh, for god's sake!	Ồ, lạy trời!

46:59	Is love a remembrance?	Yêu thương là nhớ lại?

47:08	And the questioner	Và anh bạn hỏi:
	asks:

47:18	Oh, lord, I have forgotten	Ôi trời, tôi quên mất
	where it is. Here it is.	đến đâu rồi? À đây.

47:28	And the questioner	Và anh bạn hỏi:
	asks:

47:32	What place has	Quan hệ con người có vị
	human relationship	trí gì trong nổ lực tâm linh?

47:35	in spiritual endeavour?

47:38	You see what it's	Bạn thấy tóm lại là gì?
	reduced to?

47:42	Human relationship is	Quan hệ con người là thú
		vui, tình dục, xung đột

47:45	pleasure, sex,
	conflict,

47:51	quarrels, divisions,	cãi cọ, phân chia, anh
		đi đường anh tôi đường tôi

47:53	you go your way,
	I'll go my way.

47:56	You follow?	Kịp không? Đó là
	That is our relationship,	quan hệ chúng ta

47:59	actual relationship	quan hệ thực trong
	in our daily life.	đời sống hàng ngày.

48:06	And what place has	Và quan hệ con người có vị
	human relationship	trí gì trong nổ lực tâm linh?

48:09	in spiritual endeavour?

48:14	Obviously the present	Dĩ nhiên quan hệ hiện tại
	relationship

48:16	has no place whatsoever,	không có vị trí
	obviously.	nào hết, dĩ nhiên.

48:25	We are jealous	Chúng ta ganh tị nhau
	of each other,

48:29	we want to possess	muốn chiếm hữu nhau
	each other,

48:33	we want to dominate	muốn thống trị nhau
	each other,

48:39	and so there is antagonism	và vì thế có
	between each other;	đối nghịch lẫn nhau

48:44	one is sexually unsatisfied,	không thỏa mãn tình dục
	therefore you go to somebody else,	nên bạn đi tìm kẻ khác

48:51	and in that sexual relationship	và trong quan hệ tình
	there is loneliness...	dục chỉ có cô đơn

48:58	Right?	Phải không? Mọi cái đó.
	All this, sir.

49:02	And always seeking	Và luôn tìm thú vui riêng.
	your own pleasure.

49:08	Is that all love?	Mọi cái đó là yêu thương?

49:15	So you disregard,	Nên bạn xem nhẹ, dẹp sang
		bên cái gọi là yêu thương

49:18	put aside that thing
	called love

49:21	- perhaps that is the most	có lẽ đó là điều diệu
	wonderful thing if one has it -	kỳ nhất nếu bạn có

49:26	and are so caught up	và bạn bị kẹt trong cơn
	in this vortex	lốc của ước muốn riêng

49:32	of one's own desire,

49:35	of one's own pleasure.	thú vui riêng
		- phải không?

49:38	Right?

49:44	So we are always	Nên chúng ta luôn tìm không
	wanting	chỉ thỏa mãn tình dục

49:46	not only sexual
	satisfaction,

49:51	but gratification	mà cả sự hài lòng trong
	in every direction,	mọi hướng, dựa trên thú vui.

49:55	which is based
	on pleasure.

50:00	And that we call love.	Và chúng ta gọi
		đó là yêu thương.

50:04	For that love	Vì yêu thương chúng ta giết nhau
	we'll kill each other, right?	- phải không?

50:10	Love of the country.	Yêu đất nước.

50:14	Oh, please.	Ồ, làm ơn.

50:19	So, when you're	Nên khi bạn đến cuối đường
	at the end of this...

50:22	You see, why has man,	bạn hỏi tại sao con người
	woman,

50:25	given this one thing	lại xem việc này là
		cực kỳ quan trọng?

50:27	such extraordinary
	importance?

50:38	All the magazines, you know,	Mọi tạp chí, bạn
	all that is happening.	biết mọi việc xảy ra.

50:42	Why?	Tại sao?

50:45	Is it man, woman, have lost	Phải chăng con người đánh
	their creative capacity?	mất khả năng sáng tạo?

50:52	Not sexual capacity,	Không phải khả năng
	you understand?	tình dục, hiểu chứ?

50:55	Creative capacity.	Khả năng sáng tạo.

50:58	To be able to see,	Có thể thấy, có thể
	to be a light to themselves.	là ngọn lửa cho chính họ

51:09	Not to follow anybody,	Không đi theo ai

51:14	not to worship any image,	không thờ phụng hình ảnh,
	illusion, belief.	ảo tưởng, niềm tin nào.

51:21	When you put aside	Khi bạn dẹp sang bên mọi thứ
	all that

51:25	and you have understood	và bạn hiểu từng ước
	your own petty little desires,	muốn nhỏ bé riêng tư

51:31	which is your own sexual	những đòi hỏi
	demands, gratifications,	tình dục thầm kín

51:37	then when you see all that,	hài lòng, rồi khi
	have an insight into all that,	bạn thấy tất cả

51:41	then out of that	thấu hiểu toàn bộ chúng,
	comes creation.	từ đó sáng tạo đến.

51:45	It doesn't mean	Không phải vẽ bức tranh
	painting a picture,

51:49	or writing a poem.	hay viết bài thơ.

51:55	That sense of ever freshness	Cảm giác hoàn toàn tươi tắn
	- you understand?	- hiểu chứ?

52:01	Having a mind	Tâm trí tươi tắn, trẻ trung
	that is fresh, young,

52:03	innocent all the time,	vô nhiễm mọi
	not clouded,	lúc, không mây mù

52:08	burdened with all kinds	không nặng trĩu với
	of memories, dissatisfactions,	mọi thứ ký ức, bất mãn

52:12	fears, and anxieties,	sợ hãi và lo âu, bạn biết
	you know.

52:15	When you have lost	khi bạn mất hết chúng
	all that,

52:17	there is a totally	liền có một loại tâm
	different kind of mind.	trí hoàn toàn khác.

52:22	Then sex has	Và tình dục
	its own place.	có vị trí riêng.

52:29	But when sex becomes a means	Nhưng khi tình dục trở
	of religious endeavour	thành nổ lực tôn giáo

52:35	- you understand	Bạn hiểu lời tôi không?
	what I am saying? -

52:40	then we get completely	là chúng ta hoàn
	bogged down.	toàn bị sa lầy.

52:48	Apparently	Có vẻ như chúng ta
		không có tính hoài nghi

52:52	we don't have

52:55	that quality
	of scepticism.

53:00	You understand?	Hiểu không?

53:02	To be sceptical	Hoài nghi về đòi hỏi riêng
	about one's own demands.

53:10	To question, doubt	Hỏi, hoài nghi
	these innumerable gurus.	về vô số đạo sư.

53:19	And doubt also becomes	Và hoài nghi cũng
	rather dangerous,	trở nên khá nguy hiểm

53:23	because if you	bởi nếu bạn không nắm nó
	don't hold it,

53:27	then you doubt everything	bạn hoài nghi mọi thứ
	and then there's no end.	và không có hồi kết.

53:31	It is like having	Như con chó bị cột dây
	a dog on a leash:

53:35	you must let it go	phải thả nó đi, đôi khi hoặc
	occasionally, or often,

53:39	so that the dog enjoys	thường, nên con chó thích
	himself, runs about.	thú, chạy loanh quanh.

53:45	In the same way	Cũng thế, hoài nghi
	doubt must be kept on a leash	phải bị cột sợi dây

53:48	and also allowed,	và cũng nới lỏng,
	take away the leash,	hay bỏ sợi dây

53:53	so the mind is,	nên tâm trí
	you know...	- bạn biết đó

53:56	The mind being your heart,	Tâm trí là tim,
	your brain, your emotions,	là não, cảm xúc

54:00	everything active,	mọi cái sống động,
		không chỉ đi một hướng là

54:03	not just directed
	in one direction,

54:05	which is sex, sex, sex.	tình dục, tình
		dục, tình dục.

54:26	Can thought be aware of itself	Suy nghĩ có thể tự nhận
	as it is taking place?	biết khi nó khởi lên?

54:32	Or does the awareness	Hay nhận biết đến
	come after the thought?	sau khi suy nghĩ?

54:38	Can consciousness be aware	Ý thức có thể nhận
	of its whole content?	biết cả tích chứa nó?

54:45	I'll read it once more.	Tôi sẽ đọc lần nữa.

54:47	Can thought be aware of itself	Suy nghĩ có thể tự nhận
	as it is taking place?	biết khi nó khởi lên?

54:54	Or does the awareness	Hay nhận biết đến
	come after the thought?	sau khi suy nghĩ?

55:01	Can consciousness be aware	Ý thức có thể nhận
	of its whole content?	biết cả tích chứa nó?

55:17	Most of us are aware	Đa số chúng ta nhận
	after the happening.	biết sau khi xảy ra

55:25	Right?	Phải không?

55:28	After the incident,	sau biến cố, sau hành động.
	after an action.

55:35	Then we say,	Rồi chúng ta nói

55:37	'I should have done,'	'Lẽ ra tôi nên làm',
	'I shouldn't have done.'	'Lẽ ra không nên làm'.

55:43	The questioner asks:	Anh bạn hỏi: suy nghĩ có
		thể tự biết khi nó khởi lên?

55:47	can thought be aware of itself
	as it arises?

55:52	Not after,	không sau đó, việc khá đơn
	which is fairly simple,	giản, đa số chúng ta làm thế.

55:57	which is what
	most of us do.

56:00	But the question is:	Nhưng câu hỏi là: có thể nhận
		biết suy nghĩ khi nó khởi?

56:03	can there be awareness
	of thought as it arises?

56:10	Do you understand	Bạn hiểu câu hỏi chứ?
	the question?

56:13	You understand	Ít nhất bạn hiểu câu hỏi?
	the question at least?

56:19	Can you be aware	Bạn có thể biết
	- please listen to this -	- hãy lắng nghe

56:24	of your thought?	suy nghĩ mình?

56:26	That is, can thought	Nghĩa là, suy nghĩ có thể
	be aware of itself,	tự biết, khi nó khởi lên?

56:31	as it arises?

56:40	You understand	Bạn hiểu câu hỏi không?
	the question?

56:43	That is,	Tức là, cả đời sống
		bạn dựa trên suy nghĩ

56:48	one's whole life

56:51	is based on thought,

56:56	thought recognising	suy nghĩ nhận biết cảm xúc
	the emotion,

57:00	the sentiment,	cảm giác, cảm
	the romantic feelings,	nhận viển vông

57:05	the imagination,	tưởng tượng, v.v..
	and so on.

57:07	Thought is recognising all this,	Suy nghĩ biết hết
	right?	- phải không?

57:11	'Oh, I am very	'Ồ, tôi xúc động quá' v.v..
	emotional,'

57:14	and so on.

57:17	Now, thought is	Suy nghĩ là khí cụ của mọi hành động
		- phải không?

57:23	our instrument
	of all action.

57:27	Right?

57:29	Therefore	Thế nên không có
	there is no spontaneity.	tính tự nhiên.

57:34	If you look	Nếu bạn nghiêm
	into yourself seriously,	túc nhìn mình

57:37	spontaneity can only exist when	tính tự nhiên chỉ có thể
	there is complete, total freedom,	có khi tự do hoàn toàn

57:46	psychologically.	về nội tâm.

57:51	So can your mind	Vậy tâm trí bạn có thể
		tự biết lúc suy nghĩ khởi?

57:54	be aware of itself
	as thought arises?

58:03	That is, is there	Tức là, có nhận biết
	an awareness

58:07	when you begin	lúc bạn bắt đầu nổi giận?
	to be angry?

58:13	You follow all this?	Bạn theo kịp không?

58:16	Can there be an awareness	Có thể nhận biết
	as jealousy arises?	lúc ghen tị khởi lên?

58:24	Can there be an awareness	Có thể nhận
	as greed comes,	biết lúc tham đến

58:32	be aware of that?	nhận biết chứ?

58:35	Can there be?	Có thể không?

58:39	Or you are aware	Hay bạn nhận biết
	that you have been jealous,	bạn đã ghen tị

58:43	or that you have been greedy,	hay bạn đã tham hoặc
	or that you have been angry?	bạn đã nổi giận?

58:47	That is fairly simple,	Việc rất đơn giản, đa
	most of us do that.	số chúng ta làm thế.

58:50	But to be aware	Nhưng nhận biết với để ý
	so attentively,

58:57	you can see for yourself	bạn có thể tự thấy
	the anger coming in,	cơn giận đang đến

59:01	the adrenaline	adrenalin và cả tiến trình
	and all the processes,

59:04	the whole movement	toàn bộ vận hành cơn giận.
	of anger.

59:08	You can see greed	Bạn có thể thấy
	come into being:	tham hiện diện:

59:11	You see something you want and	Bạn thấy điều bạn muốn và
	- you follow? - the reaction.	- theo kịp chứ? - phản ứng.

59:17	To be aware of that.	Nhận biết nó.

59:19	Of course one can,	Dĩ nhiên bạn có
	as it arises.	thể khi nó khởi.

59:23	Now the question is	Giờ thì câu hỏi khó hơn
	a little more difficult, more deep.	một chút, sâu hơn một chút.

59:28	Can thought	Suy nghĩ có thể -
	- please listen to this -	nghe nhé - nghĩa là

59:32	which is, you can be aware as	bạn có thể nhận biết lúc
	anger arises, that is fairly simple,	giận nổi lên, khá đơn giản

59:37	but is there	nhưng có nhận biết
	an awareness	chính suy nghĩ?

59:45	of thought itself?

59:47	You understand	Bạn hiểu lời tôi không?
	what I am saying?

59:53	You are thinking now,	Bạn đang suy
	aren't you?	nghĩ, phải không?

59:56	Or are you all	Hay các bạn đãng trí?
	absent-minded?

1:00:02	You are thinking now,	Bạn đang suy
	aren't you?	nghĩ, phải không?

1:00:05	Now, as you are thinking,	Hiện bạn đang nghĩ

1:00:08	find out if that thinking	tìm xem suy nghĩ ấy
	can be aware of itself.	có thể tự biết nó.

1:00:12	Not you aware	Không phải bạn biết suy nghĩ
	of thinking	- bạn hiểu vấn đề chứ?

1:00:17	- do you understand
	the problem?

1:00:18	I wonder	Không biết bạn hiểu chăng.
	if you see this.

1:00:23	This is really great fun	Việc này rất thú
	if you go into it.	vị nếu bạn tìm hiểu.

1:00:30	Not only fun,	Không chỉ thú
	it is very, very serious	vị, rất nghiêm túc

1:00:32	because we can go very,	bởi bạn có thể
	very deeply into all this.	tìm hiểu thật sâu.

1:00:37	That is,	Tức là, bạn đang
	you are thinking	nghĩ về điều gì

1:00:41	about something,

1:00:44	about your dress, or your	về y phục, về vẻ
	look, what people have said,	mặt, lời thiên hạ nói

1:00:48	what you are going to meet,	bạn sẽ gặp ai,
	and this and that,	và cái này cái nọ

1:00:50	thinking is there.	suy nghĩ đó.

1:00:55	Now, take one thought	Giờ lấy một suy nghĩ

1:01:02	and see if that thought	và xem suy nghĩ ấy
	can know itself.	có thể tự biết nó.

1:01:08	Ah, yes, sir, this requires	À vâng, việc này đòi
	tremendous attention	hỏi chú tâm lớn lao

1:01:13	which you are	mà bạn thì chưa quen.
	not used to.

1:01:17	You are thinking	Bạn suy nghĩ về áo quần
	about the dress	mình có hay bạn sẽ đi mua.

1:01:19	you have had
	or you are going to buy.

1:01:24	The thought	Suy nghĩ khởi lên
	that arises...

1:01:27	Can that thought say, 'Yes,	Suy nghĩ có thể nói, 'Vâng, tôi tỉnh táo'
	I am awake' - you understand?	- hiểu chứ?

1:01:32	I see myself...	Tôi thấy tôi, chính nó

1:01:37	Itself,	không phải bạn quan sát suy
	not you observe the thought,	nghĩ, bởi bạn cũng là suy nghĩ.

1:01:42	because you are
	also thought.

1:01:46	Do you understand?	Bạn hiểu chứ?

1:01:48	So you are not aware	Vậy bạn không biết
		khi suy nghĩ khởi

1:01:50	as thought arises,

1:01:54	but thought itself	mà chính suy nghĩ tự
	is aware	biết khi nó có mặt.

1:01:57	as it comes into being.

1:01:59	I wonder if you see this.	Bạn có thấy
	No.	thế không. Không.

1:02:04	Right?	Phải không? Đó
	That is one question.	là một câu hỏi.

1:02:06	The other is:	Câu kia là:

1:02:09	Can consciousness	Ý thức có thể nhận biết
		toàn bộ tích chứa nó?

1:02:12	be aware
	of its whole content?

1:02:17	Do you understand?	Bạn hiểu không?

1:02:18	Consciousness	Ý thức

1:02:21	- to put it very quickly	Nói thật ngắn gọn
	and briefly -

1:02:25	is its content,	tích chứa nó, phải không?
	isn't it?

1:02:28	Your belief, your name,	Niềm tin, tên
	your nationality,	tuổi, quốc tịch

1:02:31	your prejudices, your opinions,	thành kiến, ý
	your conclusions,	kiến, kết luận

1:02:35	your hopes, your despairs,	hy vọng, bất mãn, buồn rầu
	your depression,

1:02:39	your concern about yourself,	quan tâm đến chính mình,
	you believe and you don't believe,	tin tưởng hay không tin tưởng

1:02:42	you believe in being	tin mình là người Anh
	a British and not British	hay không phải người Anh

1:02:45	- you follow -	theo nhé
	God or no God.	- Thượng đế hay không Thượng đế.

1:02:47	All that	Mọi cái đó
	- your anxieties, your fears,	- lo âu, sợ hãi

1:02:50	all that is the content of you,	mọi cái đó là tích chứa của bạn
	right?	- phải không?

1:02:54	Your sexual demands,	Đòi hỏi tình dục,
	your urges, your pleasures	thôi thúc, thú vui

1:02:57	- all that is your	mọi cái đó là ý thức bạn
	consciousness.

1:03:02	And can that consciousness	và ý thức ấy có thể
	- please listen to it -	- nghe nhé

1:03:07	be aware	nhận biết tích chứa nó,
	of its own content,	toàn bộ chứ không từng phần?

1:03:11	as a whole,
	not just a part?

1:03:14	You get the point?	Bạn hiểu vấn đề chứ?

1:03:16	No, you can't.	Không? Bạn không thể.

1:03:21	You don't do it.	Bạn không hiểu.

1:03:23	This is real meditation,	Đây là thiền định
	you understand?	thực, hiểu không?

1:03:27	Not all the nonsense	Không phải mọi thứ
	that goes on.	vô nghĩa cứ tiếp tục.

1:03:35	Because to see	Bởi vì thấy toàn
	the whole of your being,	thể con người mình

1:03:41	not just your	không chỉ đòi hỏi tình dục
	sexual demands,

1:03:45	because sex	bởi nó không phải
	isn't your only life;	duy nhất đời bạn

1:03:48	there are fears,	còn cả sợ hãi,
	death, anxiety,	chết chóc, âu lo

1:03:52	guilt, despair, depression	tội ác, bất mãn, buồn phiền
	- you follow? -	- kịp chứ?

1:03:56	sorrow - all that's	đau khổ, mọi cái đó
	part of your life.	là một phần đời bạn.

1:04:01	So, all that	Vậy mọi cái đó
	is your consciousness.	là ý thức bạn.

1:04:06	Now, the questioner	Anh bạn hỏi:
	asks:

1:04:08	can your consciousness	ý thức có thể nhận
		biết cả tích chứa nó?

1:04:10	be aware of its
	whole content?

1:04:19	That means can you observe...	Tức là bạn có thể quan sát
	- not you observe -	- không phải bạn quan sát

1:04:23	is there an observation	có chăng quan sát
	of the whole thing?	toàn thể sự vật?

1:04:33	One has to go very	Bạn phải tìm hiểu thật sâu.
	deeply into this.

1:04:36	We haven't time,	Chúng ta không có thì giờ,
	but we will go briefly into it.	nhưng sẽ tìm hiểu ngắn gọn.

1:04:40	That consciousness	Ý thức ấy hình
	is put together by time,	thành bởi thời gian

1:04:45	through time,	qua thời gian, qua
		cái gọi là tiến hóa.

1:04:47	through what we call
	evolution.

1:04:52	You have had incidents,	Bạn có sự cố,
	accidents, remembrances,	tai nạn, nhớ lại

1:04:58	racial, national,	chủng tộc, quốc
	and so on, family	tịch, gia đình

1:05:02	- all that is a movement	mọi cái đó là vận
		hành chứa trong ý thức

1:05:06	contained
	in consciousness.

1:05:10	Right?	Phải không?

1:05:16	And is it ever possible	Và có thể nào hoàn toàn
		thoát khỏi tích chứa ấy?

1:05:19	to be completely free	Hiểu không?
	of that content?

1:05:24	Do you understand? No, you	Không, bạn không
	are not interested in all this.	thích mọi việc này

1:05:32	This is really very	Việc này rất quan
	important, because	trọng, bởi vì nếu không

1:05:36	otherwise we are always acting	chúng ta luôn hành động
	in the field of the known,	trong phạm vi của cái biết

1:05:45	the known being the unknown	cái biết cũng là
	also, the ignorance.	không biết, dốt nát.

1:05:50	There is never freedom.	Không hề có tự do.

1:05:54	That's, a man always living	Tức là con người luôn sống
	in the past, as you do.	bằng quá khứ, như bạn đó.

1:06:02	You may project that past	Bạn có thể phóng chiếu
	into the future,	quá khứ vào tương lai

1:06:07	as an ideal,	như lý tưởng, hy vọng v.v..
	as a hope, and so on,

1:06:09	but it is still	nhưng đó vẫn là vận
	the movement of the past,	hành của quá khứ

1:06:12	modified through the present,	canh cải qua hiện tại
	right?	- phải không?

1:06:17	So, a man who is completely,	Vậy, con người hoàn
	more or less living in the past,	toàn, ít nhay nhiều

1:06:22	what is his mind	sống bằng quá khứ, đó là tâm trí hắn
	- you understand?	- hiểu chứ?

1:06:26	He may have	Có thể hắn có
	new techniques,	kỹ thuật mới

1:06:30	new opportunities	cơ hội mới để học
	to learn other forms of skills,	những loại kỹ năng khác

1:06:34	but it is essentially,	nhưng cơ bản, trong hắn
	in himself,

1:06:38	his consciousness	ý thức là vận
	is the movement of the past.	hành của quá khứ.

1:06:44	Right?	Phải không?

1:06:48	So, a man who is living	Vậy con người
	in the past, or a woman	sống bằng quá khứ

1:06:54	- what happens	- điều gì xảy ra
	to his brain, mind?	cho não, tâm trí hắn?

1:07:00	It can never be free.	Nó không thể tự do.

1:07:06	So, a man who enquires	Nên người tìm hiểu
	into this very seriously	điều này nghiêm túc

1:07:13	has to find out whether	phải tìm xem toàn
	this whole consciousness	thể ý thức ấy với

1:07:17	with its content	tích chứa nó có thể
	can be seen at once,	được thấy tức thì

1:07:24	which is to have	nghĩa là phải thấu
	total insight into this.	hiểu nó hoàn toàn.

1:07:31	I don't know	Không biết bạn
	if you have ever considered	có bao giờ xem xét

1:07:35	looking at anything	nhìn toàn bộ điều gì:
	wholly:

1:07:40	to look at your wife,	nhìn vợ mình, con mình
	or your girl,

1:07:43	or your husband,	hay chồng, hay gì đó,
	whatever it is, wholly,	một cách toàn thể

1:07:47	not just her face,	không chỉ gương
	her this or that,	mặt, hay này hay nọ

1:07:50	but the whole quality	mà toàn thể đặc
	of another human being.	tính của một người.

1:07:58	And you can only do that	Và bạn chỉ có thể
	when the you is not.	làm thế khi bạn không có

1:08:02	Do you understand?	Hiểu chứ?

1:08:05	When you are not	Khi bạn không
	centred here, me.	tụ lại đây, tôi.

1:08:09	The 'me' is very	Cái 'tôi' rất nhỏ, rất bé
	small, very petty,

1:08:12	because the 'me' is	bởi 'tôi' là gom góp
	the accumulation of all this.	của mọi cái này.

1:08:20	So, when you begin	Vậy khi bạn tìm
	to enquire into this	hiểu việc này

1:08:27	whether it is possible	xem có thể nhìn
		toàn bộ tích chứa

1:08:29	to see the whole content,

1:08:32	the movement	vận hành của ý thức
	of consciousness,

1:08:35	which means the whole	tức là toàn bộ cấu
	structure of the 'me.'	trúc của cái 'tôi'.

1:08:46	That requires pure observation	Việc ấy đòi hỏi quan sát thuần tuý
	- do you understand?	- hiểu không?

1:08:50	Not your direction,	Không phải hướng,
	prejudice,	thành kiến của bạn

1:08:53	like and dislike,	thích hay không
	and all the rest of it,	thích, và v.v.., mà

1:08:55	but just purely	chỉ thuần tuý quan sát cấu
	to observe	trúc rộng lớn, phức tạp ấy.

1:08:58	the vast structure,
	very complex.

1:09:02	Because of its	Bởi nó quá phức tạp, bạn
	very complexity,	phải tiếp cận thật đơn giản.

1:09:05	you must come to it
	very simply.

1:09:10	Right?	Phải không?

1:09:20	Shall I go on	Tôi sẽ tiếp một
	with one more question?	câu hỏi nữa chứ?

1:09:24	I hope you aren't...	Hy vọng bạn không

1:09:37	I have tried	Tôi đã thử mọi
	all kinds of meditation,	thứ thiền định

1:09:42	fasting,	nhịn ăn và cuộc
		sống cô độc tự nguyện

1:09:45	and a voluntary
	isolation,

1:09:51	solitary life,

1:09:53	but it has come	nhưng chẳng đi đến đâu.
	to nothing.

1:09:57	Is there one thing,	Có chăng điều gì,
	or one quality,	hay đặc tính gì

1:10:01	that will end my seeking	chấm dứt tìm
	and my confusion,	kiếm và rối loạn

1:10:05	and if there is,	và nếu có tôi phải làm gì?
	what am I to do?

1:10:12	May I read	Tôi đọc lại câu hỏi chứ?
	the question again?

1:10:15	I have tried	Tôi đã thử mọi
	all kinds of meditation,	thứ thiền định

1:10:20	fasting,	nhịn ăn và cuộc
		sống cô độc tự nguyện

1:10:22	and a voluntary
	solitary life,

1:10:29	but it has come	nhưng chẳng đi đến đâu.
	to nothing.

1:10:32	Is there one thing,	Có chăng điều gì,
	or one quality,	hay đặc tính gì

1:10:37	that will end	chấm dứt tìm
	my seeking	kiếm và rối loạn

1:10:40	and my confusion,

1:10:46	and if there is,	và nếu có tôi phải làm gì?
	what am I to do?

1:10:51	You understand	Bạn hiểu câu hỏi không?
	this question?

1:10:53	Are you	Bạn trong tình cảnh ấy?
	in that position?

1:11:00	You understand	Bạn hiểu câu hỏi chứ?
	the question?

1:11:01	That is,	Tức là, bạn đến Nhật bản
	one goes to Japan,

1:11:07	Zen Buddhism,	Zen Phật giáo,
	Zen meditation,	Zen thiền định

1:11:09	the various	những kiểu khác nhau của
	forms of Tibetan,	Tây tạng, Hinđu, Cơ đốc

1:11:12	Hindu, the Christian,

1:11:16	and all the innumerable	và cả vô số thiền
	meditations	định con người đặt ra.

1:11:19	man has invented.

1:11:25	And the questioner says,	Và anh bạn nói

1:11:27	'I have been	'Tôi đã trải qua tất cả'
	through all that,

1:11:32	I have done yoga	'Tôi đã tập mọi
	of various kinds,	thứ yoga, nhịn ăn

1:11:38	fasted,

1:11:40	led a solitary life	kéo lê cuộc sống cô
		độc cố tìm ra sự thật'

1:11:44	trying to find out
	what is truth,

1:11:48	and at the end of it all	'Và cuối cùng tôi
		chẳng thấy gì hết'.

1:11:51	I have found nothing.'

1:11:54	Do you understand this?	Bạn hiểu chứ?

1:11:57	You people	Các bạn không hiểu.
	don't understand.

1:11:59	It isn't a tragedy	Không phải bi kịch
	to you, is it?	của bạn, phải không?

1:12:08	Is there one thing,	Có chăng điều gì

1:12:11	one quality,	đặc tính gì chấm dứt
		tìm kiếm và rối loạn?

1:12:13	that will end my seeking
	and my confusion?

1:12:19	If there is,	Nếu có, nói xem
	tell me what to do?	tôi phải làm gì?

1:12:34	You understand	Bạn hiểu hết ý
	the full meaning of this question?	nghĩa câu hỏi không?

1:12:43	I met a man once,	Tôi có gặp một người

1:12:46	he was a very old man	ông ấy rất già
		- tôi thì rất trẻ

1:12:49	- I was quite young -

1:12:51	grey hair,	tóc bạc, sắp chết.
	almost dying.

1:12:57	And he heard one of the talks	Và ông ta nghe một buổi nói
	and came to see me afterwards,	chuyện và sau đó đến tìm tôi

1:13:03	and he said, 'I have spent	và ông ta nói, 'Tôi đã
	25 years of my life	trải 25 năm đời mình

1:13:09	in solitude,	trong cô độc, thiền định.
	in meditation.

1:13:11	I have been married, and	Tôi đã có vợ và
	so on, but I left all that	v.v.., nhưng tôi bỏ hết

1:13:15	and for 25 years	và tôi đã thiền định 25 năm.
	I have meditated.

1:13:20	And I see now,	Và giờ tôi hiểu
	that I have heard you,	tôi đã nghe ngài

1:13:24	that I have lived	tôi đã sống trong ảo tưởng.'
	in an illusion.'	- bạn hiểu không?

1:13:27	You understand?

1:13:29	25 years	25 năm
	- you people don't know a thing.	- các bạn không hiểu đâu.

1:13:37	And to say to oneself,	Và nói với chính mình

1:13:39	'I have lived an illusion,	'Tôi đã sống ảo
	I have deceived myself.'	tưởng, tôi tự gạt mình'

1:13:43	You understand?	Bạn hiểu chứ?

1:13:44	At the end of 25	Sau 25 năm để nói thế.
	years to say that.

1:13:51	Which means	Nghĩa là một đời bỏ
	a wasted life,	phí, dù bạn làm gì đó

1:13:55	which you are doing
	anyhow

1:13:58	without meditating	không phải thiền định 25 năm.
	for 25 years.

1:14:08	And he asks	Và anh bạn hỏi điều gì đó
	what is the one thing,

1:14:16	one action,	một hành động

1:14:20	one step	một bước sẽ
		giải tan rối loạn

1:14:22	that will dissolve
	my confusion,

1:14:26	the end to my search.	chấm dứt tìm kiếm.

1:14:30	You understand	Bạn hiểu câu hỏi không?
	the question?

1:14:32	Are you in that position,	Bạn nào ở trong
	any of you?	tình cảnh ấy?

1:14:37	Except the questioner?	Trừ anh bạn hỏi?

1:14:42	You understand, you have come	Bạn biết đó, bạn
	to the end of your tether.	đã đến cuối sợi dây.

1:14:50	You have read, you have	Bạn đã đọc, đã đi, đã nghe
	walked, you have heard,

1:14:52	you have cried,	bạn đã kêu gào,
	you have meditated,	đã thiền định

1:14:56	you have longed, you have	đã ước vọng, đã hy sinh
	sacrificed - you understand?	- hiểu không?

1:15:03	Probably you haven't done	Có thể bạn không
	any of those things.	làm mấy việc đó.

1:15:10	And if you have,	Và nếu đã làm

1:15:12	then what is the one thing	vậy cái gì là điều duy
	that will resolve all this?	nhất sẽ giải quyết mọi việc?

1:15:25	First of all,	Trước hết, không tìm kiếm.
	don't seek.

1:15:33	Do you understand	Bạn hiểu thế là sao không?
	what it means?

1:15:41	Because if you seek	Bởi nếu bạn
	you will find,	tìm, bạn sẽ thấy

1:15:45	what you find	cái bạn thấy bạn
	you have already sought.	đã dự định rồi.

1:15:48	I wonder	Không biết bạn
	if you see all this?	hiểu hết không?

1:15:53	What you will find	Cái bạn tìm khi tìm kiếm
	in your search

1:15:56	is what	là cái bạn dự định
	you have projected,

1:16:02	you being your priests,	bạn là thầy tu, thượng
		đế, giáo sư của bạn

1:16:05	your gods,
	your professor,

1:16:08	your guru,	đạo sư, triết học,
	your philosophy,	kinh nghiệm của bạn.

1:16:10	your experience.

1:16:14	That projected in the future	Cái dự định trong
	you will find,	tương lai, bạn sẽ gặp

1:16:18	therefore a wise	nên người khôn ngoan
	man doesn't seek.	không tìm kiếm.

1:16:28	And the questioner says,	Và bạn hỏi, điều
		duy nhất ấy là gì?

1:16:31	what is the one thing?

1:16:49	For that one thing	Để cho điều duy nhất ấy

1:16:53	there must be total	phải lìa bỏ hoàn toàn

1:16:58	freedom	mọi thứ bám víu
	from all attachment

1:17:06	- to your body, to your	thân thể, tập luyện, yoga
	exercises, to your yoga,

1:17:11	to your own opinion,	ý kiến, phán đoán,
	judgements,	và con người, niềm tin

1:17:14	and persons,
	and beliefs -

1:17:17	complete freedom	hoàn toàn lìa
	from all attachment.	bỏ mọi bám víu

1:17:25	Right?	Phải không?

1:17:28	Don't make it a sorrowful	Đừng làm thành điều
	thing, it isn't.	khổ sở, không phải đâu.

1:17:38	There must be no fear	Phải không sợ hãi

1:17:42	- wait, this is	khoan, đây không
	not one thing! -	phải điều duy nhất

1:17:48	absolutely no	tuyệt đối không
	psychological fear,	sợ hãi tâm lý

1:17:52	and therefore when	và vì thế khi
	there is physical fear	có sợ hãi vật lý

1:17:55	you deal with it	bạn giải quyết nó
	- you understand what I am saying?	- bạn hiểu lời tôi không?

1:18:00	When somebody is attacking you,	Khi ai đó tấn công bạn,
	you deal with it,	bạn giải quyết việc ấy

1:18:04	but psychologically	nhưng tâm lý không sợ hãi
	there is no fear,

1:18:12	that means	tức là không có
	no time as tomorrow.	thời gian như tương lai.

1:18:16	Oh, you don't get	Ồ, bạn không hiểu hết.
	all this.

1:18:26	And the mind having understood	Và tâm trí thấu
	the nature of sorrow	hiểu bản chất đau khổ

1:18:34	and therefore	nên lìa đau khổ
	freedom from sorrow,

1:18:39	which doesn't mean	thế không nghĩa
	that you are indifferent,	là bạn phớt lờ

1:18:41	and all the rest of it	và v.v..
	- freedom from sorrow.	- thoát đau khổ.

1:18:46	Right?	Phải không?

1:18:48	These are only indications,	Chỉ là những chỉ dẫn,
	not the final thing.	không phải điều cuối cùng.

1:18:53	If these don't exist,	Nếu không có chúng, điều
		cuối cùng kia không thể có.

1:18:55	the other final
	thing cannot be.

1:18:59	You understand	Bạn hiểu vấn đề chứ?
	the point?

1:19:02	I don't think you do.	Tôi không nghĩ bạn hiểu.

1:19:05	Look, sir, a man,	Xem nào, một con người
	or a woman,

1:19:10	a man has spent	một người trải qua bao năm
	years and years,

1:19:14	searching, seeking,	tìm tòi, tìm kiếm, hỏi han

1:19:16	asking, demanding,

1:19:19	so-called sacrificing,	cái gọi là hy sinh

1:19:24	taking vows of celibacy,	nguyện sống độc thân, nghèo nàn
	poverty - you follow? -	- kịp không?

1:19:29	and at the end of it all	và cuối cùng anh ta nói
	he says,

1:19:31	'My god,	'Trời, không có gì
	I have nothing.	cả. Tôi có ít tro tàn'.

1:19:33	I have ashes
	in my hand.'

1:19:39	Even though they think	Dầu vậy họ cho
	they have in their hands,	rằng họ có gì đó

1:19:45	Christ, or Jesus, or the Buddha	Kytô hay Giêsu hay
	- it is still ashes.	Phật, vẫn là tro tàn.

1:19:48	I wonder	Không biết bạn
	if you see all this?	hiểu hết chăng?

1:19:57	And such a man asks:	Và người như thế hỏi:

1:20:01	what is the right	đâu là hành động
	action in my life,	đúng trong đời tôi

1:20:05	the right action	hành động đúng sẽ đúng
	which will be right	trong mọi trường hợp?

1:20:08	under all circumstances?

1:20:14	It doesn't vary from time to time	Không phải thỉnh thoảng
	according to culture,	thay đổi theo văn hóa

1:20:17	according to nation,	theo quốc gia, theo giáo dục
	according to education

1:20:20	- right, precise,	đúng, chính xác, thực.
	actual.

1:20:33	When all this is clear	Khi mọi cái được hiểu rõ

1:20:37	that your mind	tâm trí bạn tự nó
	is totally unattached,	hoàn toàn không bám víu

1:20:44	to itself
	- do you understand? -

1:20:47	to its own body,	bạn hiểu chứ?
		- vào thân xác

1:20:52	and no fear,	và không sợ hãi,
		và chấm dứt đau khổ

1:20:55	and the ending
	of sorrow,

1:21:01	then if that is clear,	rồi nếu đã rõ, điều duy
		nhất kia là tình thương.

1:21:05	the one thing	Hiểu không?
	is compassion.

1:21:14	You understand?	Bạn không hiểu.
	You don't.

1:21:18	Out of all this	Từ đó tình thương đến
	comes compassion,

1:21:28	then compassion	rồi thì tình thương
	is not ashes in your hand.	không phải tro tàn.

1:21:35	It isn't the compassion that does	Không phải tình thương làm
	social reforms, social work;	cải cách xã hội, từ thiện

1:21:42	the saints, it isn't	các vị thánh, không phải
	the compassion of the saints,	tình thương của các vị thánh

1:21:48	compassion	tình thương của người
	of the people	đi vào chiến tranh

1:21:51	who go out in the war

1:21:54	and heal people, doctors,	và cứu chữa người
	and so on, so on.	khác, bác sĩ, v.v..

1:21:57	It's not that at all.	Không phải mọi thứ đó.

1:22:02	It is the one answer	Đó là trả lời duy nhất

1:22:05	that is true under	nó đúng với mọi trường hợp
	all circumstances

1:22:07	and therefore out of that	và từ hành động đúng ấy
	right action,

1:22:13	because compassion	bởi vì tình thương
	goes with intelligence.	đi với thông minh.

1:22:19	If there is no	Nếu không có thông
	intelligence	minh sinh từ tình thương

1:22:21	which is born
	out of compassion

1:22:23	- you understand? -	hiểu không?
		- bạn sẽ lạt lối trong việc tầm phào.

1:22:25	then you get lost
	in some trivialities.

1:22:31	And the world then accepts	Và thế giới chấp
	those trivialities	nhận việc tầm phào kia

1:22:34	as being extraordinary	như là hành động lạ
	acts of compassion.	kỳ của tình thương.

1:22:39	They become saints,	Họ thành thánh, và
	and they become heroes,	họ thành anh hùng

1:22:42	they become	thành mọi thứ công nhận ngu
	all kinds of idiotic	ngốc của những kẻ ngu ngốc.

1:22:44	recognitions
	of silly people.

1:22:50	So there is one act,	Nên có một hành động

1:22:55	one quality	một đặc tính tối cao
	that is supreme,

1:22:59	and that is compassion	và đó là tình
	with its intelligence.	thương và thông minh.

1:23:02	And out of that	Và từ thông minh ấy
	intelligence,

1:23:04	there is right action	có hành động đúng
	under all circumstances.	cho mọi trường hợp.

1:23:15	That's enough.	Xong nhé.