Krishnamurti_VI

Krishnamurti Subtitles

Thiền định, phi thời gian và yêu thương

Brockwood Park - 2 September 1979

Public Talk 4

1:09	This is the last talk	Đây là buổi nói
		hay họp mặt cuối.

1:12	or meeting together.

1:37	I don't quite know	Tôi thật không biết nói gì.
	what to talk about.

1:44	It is a good beginning!	Một khởi đầu tốt!

1:59	I think if we are	Tôi nghĩ nếu
	really serious	thực sự nghiêm túc

2:08	we will take life	chúng ta sẽ xem cuộc
	as a whole,	đời như toàn thể

2:15	not just what suits us,	chứ không chỉ những
		gì hợp, thuận lợi nhất

2:17	what is most
	convenient,

2:21	what is most profitable,	lợi ích hay dễ
	or pleasant.	chịu nhất với mình

2:26	But life is such	Nhưng cuộc sống
	a complex affair,	đầy phức tạp

2:34	with all the travail,	với mọi khổ nhọc,
		đấu tranh, xung đột

2:37	all the struggle,
	conflict,

2:41	and a great many pressures	với quá nhiều áp lực
	and demands on one's life.	và đòi hỏi lên đời bạn.

2:47	And we seem to take	Và hình như chúng ta
		lấy một quan điểm riêng

2:49	one particular
	point of view,

2:56	or choose what is	hay chọn điều thích ý
	most satisfactory,	nhất và theo đuổi nó.

3:01	and pursue that.

3:04	We never apparently	Chúng ta có vẻ không hề
		xem cuộc sống như toàn thể

3:09	seem to take life
	as a whole thing,

3:14	our education,	giáo dục, nghề
	our jobs,	nghiệp, lối sống

3:20	our way of living,

3:24	our relationships,	quan hệ, yêu thương
	love	- bất kỳ chữ ấy có nghĩa gì

3:29	- whatever that
	word may mean,

3:32	perhaps we might go	Có lẽ chúng ta sẽ
	into it this morning -	tìm hiểu sáng nay

3:40	and the possibility	và xem có thể sống
	of living a very good life.	cuộc đời thật đẹp.

3:55	And religion throughout	Và tôn giáo qua
	the ages	mọi thời đại

4:01	has played an extraordinarily	đã đóng vai trò quá
	important part in our life.	quan trọng trong đời sống.

4:06	One may discard it,	Bạn có thể dẹp bỏ,
		có thể nói nó vô nghĩa

4:10	one may say that is all
	nonsense, superstition,

4:17	but man, human beings	mê tín dị đoan, nhưng
	throughout the world,	con người khắp thế giới

4:23	have searched,	đã tìm kiếm hay hỏi han
	or enquired,

4:26	if there is something	có chăng điều gì siêu vượt
	far beyond

4:28	all this sensory	mọi phấn kích, thú
	excitement,	vui cảm giác, tình dục

4:33	sensory pleasures, sex,

4:37	and the ordinary	và lối mòn tầm
	routine of life.	thường của đời sống.

4:43	We have always	Chúng ta luôn hỏi điều đó.
	asked about this.

4:46	The more one is serious,	Càng nghiêm túc

4:51	the more one is delving	bạn càng đào
		sâu đời sống mình

4:53	deeply into one's life,

4:56	one invariably asks	chắc chắn bạn hỏi xem
		có điều gì thật lớn lao

5:00	if there is something
	far greater,

5:05	beyond this existence	vượt xa cuộc
		sống với phức tạp

5:09	with its complexities,

5:13	with its boredom,	với nhàm chán, cô đơn này.

5:15	with its loneliness.

5:22	And I hope we are serious	Và hy vọng chúng ta khá
	enough this morning at least	nghiêm túc, ít nhất sáng nay

5:26	that we can go	để có thể tìm
	into this.	hiểu điều này.

5:32	And if I may ask	Và xin được yêu
	and point out,	cầu và nói rằng

5:35	don't make this place,	đừng làm nơi này
	please, into a resort,	thành chỗ nghỉ mát

5:43	something you come	nơi bạn đến trong
	here for ten days	mười hôm và làm gì đó

5:48	and make a...

5:50	- you know, all	bạn biết mọi việc khác.
	the rest of it.

5:53	Please don't do it.	Xin đừng làm thế.
		Chẳng giá trị gì.

5:55	It is not worth it.

5:57	There are other places where	Có những nơi khác bạn có thể
	you can have a much better time.	có những giây phút tốt hơn.

6:04	And if you take	Và nếu chơi ma
	drugs and all that,	tuý và mọi thứ ấy

6:07	don't come here,	bạn đừng đến đây, vô ích.
	it is not worth it.

6:17	So, how shall we, as human	Vậy mọi người chúng
	beings, set about this?	ta làm sao bắt đầu?

6:22	You understand?	Hiểu không?

6:24	How shall we begin	Làm sao chúng ta
	to enquire	bắt đầu tìm kiếm

6:27	if there is something	xem có điều gì thật lớn lao
	far greater,

6:33	something that	điều gì thực sự trường cửu
	is really enduring,

6:39	something that is very,	điều gì bất di bất dịch
	very immovable,

6:46	something that can't be	điều gì không thể
	transient, changing	tàn phai, biến đổi

6:52	according	trong mọi tình huống,
	to circumstances,	mọi nền văn hóa, v.v..?

6:55	according to cultures,
	and so on?

6:59	How does one begin to enquire	Bạn bắt đầu tìm
	into this demand	hiểu điều ấy thế nào

7:05	which man, human beings	điều mà con người
	throughout the world,	khắp thế giới

7:11	from time immemorial	qua mọi thời
	have sought?	đại đã tìm kiếm?

7:18	Right?	Phải không?

7:20	Can we go into	Chúng ta có thể
	this together?	cùng tìm chứ?

7:25	If we can,	Nếu có thể, việc đầu
	the first thing is	tiên là làm sao lắng nghe

7:29	to find out
	how we listen,

7:35	not only	không chỉ lời người
	to what others say,	khác mà nghe chính bạn

7:39	but to listen
	to oneself,

7:44	listen to all	lắng nghe mọi ý
	the thoughts,	nghĩ, mọi cảm xúc

7:48	all the emotions,
	and the problems,

7:50	and the anxieties	những vấn đề và mọi
	- to listen to it,	lo âu, lắng nghe chúng

7:57	without any kind	mà không chút bóp méo
	of distortion,

8:02	without any kind of	không có đường hướng nào.
	direction.

8:06	Just to listen as you would	Chỉ lắng nghe như khi
	listen to a beautiful concert.	nghe buổi hòa nhạc hay.

8:17	So that	Vậy là bạn bắt
		đầu khám phá

8:19	one begins to discover,

8:24	as one listens,	khi bạn nghe những méo
		mó mà trí óc hay ý nghĩ

8:26	the distortions
	that mind, or thought,

8:33	in its activity,	đang hoạt động, bẻ
		cong điều hiện là.

8:35	twists what is actual.

8:39	You understand?	Hiểu không?

8:42	Because thought is	Bởi ý nghĩ luôn
	always seeking more,	tìm kiếm thêm nữa

8:48	so it moves away	nên nó chạy khỏi thực tế.
	from the actual.

8:54	So could we	Vậy sáng nay có thể
	this morning

8:57	- as I said,	như đã nói hoàn toàn
	I didn't know quite	không biết tôi sẽ nói gì

9:00	what I was going
	to talk about -

9:03	but since we have	nhưng vì khởi đầu điều này
	started on this,

9:06	could we this morning	sáng nay chúng
	so listen,	ta có thể nghe

9:13	not only	không chỉ người nói
	to the speaker,

9:17	which is not	kẻ thực ra không
	very important, really,	quan trọng gì

9:25	but the speaker is only	mà anh ta chỉ
	acting as a mirror	làm như tấm gương

9:30	in which one sees	cho bạn tự soi trong ấy.
	oneself.

9:39	And when you	Và khi bạn quan
	observe yourself,	sát chính mình

9:42	the mirror	gương không quan trọng
	is not important,

9:45	then you can break it, throw it	bạn có thể đập bỏ, ném
	away, bury it, whatever you like.	đi, bất cứ gì bạn thích.

9:52	So, could we	Vậy chúng ta
	this morning	có thể, sáng nay

9:55	together	cùng nhau tìm hiểu vấn
		đề vô cùng phức tạp này

9:57	investigate into this
	enormous complex problem

10:03	of what is	về ý nghĩa cuộc đời

10:08	the meaning of life,

10:15	and if there is	và xem có chăng điều
	something	gì vượt thời gian

10:19	beyond time,

10:23	beyond the tomorrow,	vượt khỏi ngày mai

10:27	beyond the enormous	vượt khỏi gánh
	burden of memory?	nặng của ký ức?

10:33	If there is something	Có chăng điều gì lớn lao hơn
	far greater

10:37	than mere superficial	cuộc sống chỉ
	sensory existence.	hời hợt cảm giác.

10:46	And to enquire	Và để tìm kiếm điều ấy
	into that,

10:49	we must have a certain	chúng ta phải có
	quality of freedom,	đặc tính tự do

10:56	not attached to any	không bám víu kinh
	particular experience,	nghiệm riêng nào

11:08	nor longing, or asking,	không muốn hay
	something more.	yêu cầu gì thêm.

11:14	Because then you are	Bởi nếu vậy
	already moving away	bạn đã chạy khỏi

11:17	from the actual observation,	quan sát thực tế
	right?	- phải không?

11:21	Could we please do this,	Sáng nay có thể
	this morning?	làm vậy không?

11:26	That is,	Tức là chúng ta tìm
	we are enquiring	hiểu sao gọi là tôn giáo.

11:28	into what is
	called religion.

11:36	We have enquired	Chúng ta tìm hiểu
		sợ hãi, thú vui

11:39	into what is fear,
	pleasure,

11:44	suffering,	đau khổ là gì và toàn
		bộ vấn đề cái chết.

11:47	and somewhat into
	the whole question of death.

11:53	And I think we should	Và tôi nghĩ chúng
	also enquire very deeply	ta cũng nên tìm hiểu

11:59	into this question	thật sâu vấn đề
	of what is religion.	tôn giáo là gì.

12:03	Because man has lived	Bởi con người
	by that.	sống bằng điều ấy.

12:10	Man has said,	Con người đã nói, khi
	in his search

12:16	to find out something	tìm kiếm điều khác
		cái thông thường

12:20	away from the normal,

12:23	which is not abnormal,	mà không bất thường,
		không bị thần kinh

12:25	which is not neurotic,

12:28	something beyond	điều vượt khỏi thực tế
	the actual,

12:33	the actual happening,	cái xảy ra thực, cái
		đau thực, cái khổ thực

12:36	the actual pain,
	the actual grief,

12:40	the actual anxiety,	lo âu thực

12:45	the actual sensory	đòi hỏi cảm giác tình
	sexual demands	dục thực với kinh nghiệm

12:50	and their experiences,

12:52	if there is something	xem có điều gì xa hơn thế.
	far more.

12:56	Right?	Phải không?

12:57	That has been	Đó là tìm kiếm
	the enquiry of man	của con người

13:01	and that he has called	và hắn gọi là
	the search for God,	tìm kiếm Thượng đế

13:06	search for truth,	tìm chân lý, tìm nhiều
		loại khác, ở Á châu

13:08	search for various
	forms in Asia,

13:13	which is called nirvana,	gọi là Niết bàn,
	moksha, liberation,	Thiên đàng, Giải thoát

13:17	and so on, so on, so on,	và v.v.., v.v..
	enlightenment.	- Tỏ ngộ.

13:22	This has been	Đó là đòi hỏi sâu thẳm kiên
	the constant	trì của người nghiêm túc.

13:25	deep demand
	of serious people.

13:31	And in its search	Và hắn kẹt trong
	he gets caught.	tìm kiếm ấy.

13:36	He joins one religion,	Hắn vào tôn
		giáo, rời bỏ nó

13:40	abandons it,

13:42	then goes to another,	rồi đến tôn giáo
	abandons that;	khác, lại bỏ

13:46	so he is caught	vậy là hắn kẹt nhiều
	in various traps in his search.	bẫy khi tìm kiếm.

13:51	By the end of his search,	Cuối tìm kiếm ngay
	when he is about to die, he says,	lúc gần chết hắn nói

13:55	'I have found nothing.'	'Tôi chẳng tìm được gì'
		- kịp không?

14:00	You are following?

14:01	'I have been to this guru,	'Tôi đến đạo sư này,
	that guru,	đạo sư kia, đền thờ này

14:04	this temple,	nhà thờ nọ, theo
	that church,	nhiều thầy tu gắt gỏng

14:07	followed the various
	cantankerous,

14:10	superstitious priests,	mê tín, v.v.., v.v..'
	and so on, so on, so on.'

14:14	At the end of it all,	Rồi cuối cùng,
	as he is about to die,	khi hắn gần chết

14:19	he realises	hắn nhận ra chẳng có gì,
	there is nothing,	chẳng gì ngoài ít tro.

14:21	there is nothing but ashes.

14:25	So, could we in our enquiry,	Vậy vào cuộc tìm
	if you are serious,	kiếm, nếu bạn nghiêm túc

14:33	leave all that?	có thể bỏ hết chứ?

14:40	Because	Bởi mọi tôn giáo
	all the religions,	mà con người tổ chức

14:42	which man
	has organised,

14:45	are put together	đều tạo thành do ý nghĩ.
	by thought.

14:48	And thought, as we went	Và ý nghĩ, như
	into it the other day,	đã đào sâu hôm nọ

14:52	is limited, because	là giới hạn, bởi
	it is based on knowledge,	nó dựa trên kiến thức

14:56	and knowledge is always	và kiến thức luôn
	with ignorance.	đi cùng dốt nát.

15:00	There is no complete	Không có kiến
	knowledge, right?	thức trọn vẹn.

15:03	Therefore there is	Phải không?
	in it

15:06	the quality	Vậy nên luôn có trong
	of ignorance,	đó đặc tính dốt nát

15:08	and therefore thought	và vì ý nghĩ
	is born from knowledge,	sinh từ kiến thức

15:14	experiences and therefore	kinh nghiệm và vì
	everlastingly limited.	vậy luôn giới hạn.

15:20	And all the things	Và mọi điều gì
	that thought has created	ý nghĩ tạo ra

15:25	- the churches, the technological	nhà thờ, tiến bộ
	advancements, science,	kỹ thuật, khoa học

15:31	literature, painting,	văn chương, hội họa và
		mọi thứ trong nhà thờ

15:34	and the things
	in the churches,

15:36	in the temples,
	in the mosques,

15:39	are all put there	trong đền chùa, miếu,
	by thought;	thảy đều do ý nghĩ tạo ra

15:43	there is no question	không có vấn đề về nó.
	about it.

15:47	You may say	Bạn có thể nói Chúa để đó
	the saviour put it there,

15:51	but it is still the movement	nhưng đó vẫn là vận
	of thought.	hành của ý nghĩ.

15:57	And so on.	Và v.v..

15:58	Could we see that,	Chúng ta có
	very clearly,	thể thấy rất rõ

16:07	not verbally, intellectually,	không phải ngôn từ, trí
	or being persuaded,	óc hay bị thuyết phục

16:10	see this fact	thấy thực tế

16:16	that all the things	rằng mọi cái đó
	that thought has created,	do ý nghĩ tạo ra

16:21	though illusory,	dù ảo tưởng là hiện thực.
	is a reality.

16:25	Wait a bit, I am going	Đợi chút, tôi sẽ
	to go into this.	đào sâu điều này.

16:27	I am using the word 'reality'	Tôi dùng chữ 'hiện thực'
	in the sense 'this is real.'	trong nghĩa 'đây là thực'.

16:33	The microphone	Chiếc micro trước
	in front of this person	mặt mọi người

16:35	is actual, real,	là thực tế, thực,
	you can touch it.	bạn có thể sờ.

16:41	And the things	Và mọi vật do
	that thought has created,	ý nghĩ tạo ra

16:44	which he has called religion,	mà họ gọi là tôn
	and organised,	giáo, và tổ chức

16:49	that which he	gọi là tôn giáo,
	calls religion,	là một thực tế.

16:52	is an actuality.

16:54	The ritual	Lễ lạy là một thực tế
	is an actuality.

16:59	The various fanciful robes	Nhiều kiểu y áo lạ
	they put on are actual,	lùng họ mặc là thực tế

17:05	so it is real.	vậy nó là thực.

17:10	And the symbols,	Và biểu tượng, ý niệm, là thực
	the ideas,	- phải không?

17:15	are actual,
	aren't they?

17:19	As well as illusions,	Cũng như ảo tưởng, bởi
		ý nghĩ tạo ra ảo tưởng.

17:22	because thought has
	created illusions.

17:26	You are following	Bạn theo kịp không?
	all this?

17:29	So illusions,	Vậy ảo tưởng, ý niệm
		kỳ cục, mọi lễ lạy

17:33	fanciful ideas,

17:35	all the rituals

17:37	- everything that thought	Mọi thứ ý nghĩ
	has put together is actual.	dựng lên là thực tế.

17:45	The guns,	Súng ống, tàu
		ngầm, lên mặt trăng

17:47	the submarines,

17:50	going to the moon,
	and so on, so on,

17:53	are all actual	và v.v.., đều là
	realities.	hiện thực thực tế.

18:03	But that reality	Nhưng hiện thực ấy do ý nghĩ tạo ra
	is created by thought.	- phải không?

18:08	Right?

18:10	Thought has not	Ý nghĩ không
	created nature.	tạo ra tự nhiên.

18:17	So nature is actual,	Nên tự nhiên là
	real,	thực tế, thực

18:20	but it is not	nhưng không là sản
	the product of thought.	phẩm của ý nghĩ.

18:23	But thought can	Nhưng ý nghĩ có
	use the nature	thể dùng tự nhiên

18:26	- making a chair,	làm chiếc ghế, thành
	which becomes a reality.	hiện thực. Phải không?

18:31	Right?

18:35	So, in going into this matter	Vậy tìm hiểu vấn
	of what is religion,	đề tôn giáo là gì

18:39	if there is something	xem có điều gì siêu vượt
	beyond,

18:44	one must distinguish	Bạn phải phân biệt
	between	giữa thực tế, hiện thực

18:48	the actual,
	the reality...

18:54	Reality, in that	Hiện thực, bao
	is included illusions	gồm cả ảo tưởng

18:58	- right, you are following	Phải không, theo kịp không?
	all this? -	- và tự nhiên.

19:00	and nature.

19:02	Those are all realities,	Chúng là hiện thực, nhưng
		ý nghĩ không tạo ra tự nhiên.

19:06	but thought
	has not created nature.

19:09	So if one is very clear	Nên nếu bạn đã
	on that matter,	rõ vấn đề này

19:14	then we can proceed	chúng ta có thể
	to find out:	tiếp tục tìm hiểu:

19:23	this human search	con người tìm kiếm điều
		vô hạn, vượt thời gian

19:30	for something infinite,
	beyond time,

19:36	is that man-made,	là nhân tạo, ý nghĩ tạo

19:40	thought-made,

19:42	or is there something	hay có chăng điều gì không
		là sản phẩm của ý nghĩ?

19:44	which is not
	the product of thought?

19:47	You are following	Bạn theo kịp không?
	all this?

19:51	Please,	Nào

19:57	we are investigating	chúng ta hãy cùng tìm.
	together.

20:01	Please bear in mind this	Xin luôn nhớ điều
	central fact all the time,	cơ bản là chúng ta

20:07	that we are examining	cùng nhau tìm kiếm.
	together.

20:13	You are not accepting	Bạn không cần chấp
	what the speaker is saying.	nhận lời người nói.

20:18	He has no authority	Anh ta không có
	whatsoever.	uy quyền gì hết.

20:22	Therefore we are,	Vì vậy chúng ta
	both of us, seriously	nghiêm túc cùng

20:27	committed	làm cuộc tìm tòi này.
	to this enquiry.

20:30	You may drop off	Các bạn có thể
	in the middle of it.	lần lượt bỏ đi.

20:33	That is equally right.	Vậy cũng đúng.

20:35	But when once
	you start enquiring,

20:39	go as far	Nhưng hễ bắt đầu tìm
	as you can.	tòi, bạn đến đâu tuỳ sức.

20:43	Probably one's own minds	Có thể trí óc
		bạn không đủ mạnh

20:46	are not strong enough,

20:51	clear enough.	không đủ sáng.

20:54	That is why I said	Vậy nên ngay từ đầu tôi nói
	at the beginning,

20:57	one has to listen	bạn phải lắng
	to oneself,	nghe chính mình

21:03	where one is blocked,	chỗ nào bạn tắt
		nghẽn, bám víu

21:07	where one is attached,

21:11	to an experience,	vào kinh nghiệm,
	to a desire, and so on.	vào ước muốn, v.v..

21:14	So one must put aside those,	Vậy phải dẹp bỏ chúng
	if you are enquiring.	khi bạn bạn tìm tòi.

21:21	And in that enquiry	Và khi tìm tòi bạn
		phải tự do mà quan sát.

21:23	there must be freedom
	to observe.

21:27	You can't say, 'Well, I believe	Không thể nói, 'Ồ, tôi tin
	in God, or Jesus, or Krishna,'	Chúa hay Giê su, hay Krishna'

21:31	or whatever it is,	hay gì khác, rồi đi
		tìm, không được đâu.

21:33	and then enquire
	- you can't.

21:36	That is playing tricks.	Đó là trò đùa.

21:39	You can play tricks	Bạn không thể đùa
	upon yourself,	với chính mình

21:42	but when you are	nhưng khi tìm tòi nghiêm
	enquiring seriously	túc bạn phải chơi đùa.

21:45	you must play the game.

21:54	So, is there something	Vậy có chăng điều gì
		không do ý nghĩ tạo ra?

21:58	that is not

22:03	produced by thought?

22:06	Right?	Phải không?

22:09	Which means:	Nghĩa là: có chăng
		điều gì vượt thời gian?

22:11	is there something
	which is beyond time?

22:16	Please go slowly,	Hãy đi từ từ, chúng
	we are going to enquire.	ta sẽ tìm kiếm.

22:23	We are accustomed	Chúng ta đã quen
	to the idea of evolution,	với ý niệm tiến hóa

22:30	physical evolution,	trước hết là
	first of all.	tiến hóa vật lý.

22:34	That is, the seed, the acorn	Tức là, hột, trái
	producing the oak;	sồi, tạo ra cây sồi

22:39	it takes infinite time,	mất nhiều thời
		gian, rất nhiều năm.

22:43	a great many years.

22:46	And that same concept,	Và cùng quan niệm
	or actuality,	hay thực tế ấy

22:56	is taken over	được chuyển sang tâm lý.
	psychologically.

23:01	That is,	Tức là, về tâm lý bạn
	psychologically	phải có thời gian để học

23:04	one must have
	time to learn,

23:08	to understand	để hiểu
		- phải không?

23:11	- right? -

23:14	to capture that	để nắm bắt điều
	which is much more advanced.	gì siêu vượt hơn.

23:19	So we are used	Nên chúng ta quen với ý niệm tiến hóa, thời gian
	to the idea	- phải không?

23:22	of evolution, time.

23:26	Right?

23:28	So we must be	Vậy chúng ta phải thật rõ
	very clear,

23:31	if there is	xem có thời
	psychological time at all.	gian tâm lý không.

23:36	There is physical time.	Có thời gian vật lý.

23:41	Please, you must give	Bạn phải để ý
	attention to this a little bit,	việc này đôi chút

23:46	if you are interested	nếu bạn thích thú tìm tòi.
	in the enquiry.

23:49	There is physical time,	Có thời gian vật lý
	from here to go to that house,	từ đây đến ngôi nhà kia

23:53	it takes exactly	mất đúng ba phút.
	three minutes.

24:00	So time is necessary,	Nên về vật lý thời gian
	physically,

24:02	to cover	cần thiết để đi từ
	from a certain point	nơi này đến nơi khác.

24:05	to another
	certain point.

24:09	That is time	Đó là thời gian
	to cover the distance.	để nối khoảng cách.

24:15	Now, we have taken over	Chúng ta lại
	that concept,	chuyển quan niệm ấy

24:18	that conclusion,	kết luận ấy thành tâm lý.
	psychologically.

24:24	I am ignorant,	Tôi dốt, bạn dốt
	one is ignorant,

24:28	one doesn't know,	bạn không biết, tôi không biết
		chính tôi, tôi cần thời gian.

24:30	I don't know myself,
	I need time.

24:39	Now, time is	Thời gian bị đặt
	psychologically	thành tâm lý do ý nghĩ.

24:43	put there by thought.

24:49	Do you actually	Bạn có thực
	need time	sự cần thời gian

24:52	to be free say,	để thoát khỏi
	for example, of greed?	tham lam? ví dụ.

24:57	I am taking that	Tôi lấy đó làm ví dụ.
	as an example.

24:59	Do you actually	Bạn có thực sự
	need time?	cần thời gian?

25:03	That is, several days,	Tức là, vài hôm,
		thời gian là tương lai.

25:05	time being the future.

25:08	Do you need the future,	Bạn có cần tương lai, thời
	time,	gian, để thoát khỏi ghen tị

25:12	to be free of jealousy,

25:16	whatever it is,	hay gì đó, lo âu,
		tham lam, ganh ghét?

25:18	anxiety, greed, envy?

25:21	Do you need time,	Bạn có thực cần thời gian?
	actually?

25:26	No, no, don't shake your head.	Không, không, đừng lắc đầu.
	But we are used to that.	Nhưng chúng ta quen vậy.

25:30	When I say, 'I will get over it'	Khi nói, 'tôi sẽ vượt qua nó'
	- the 'will' is time.	- sẽ là thời gian.

25:37	You understand?	Hiểu không? Không
	I wonder if you do.	rõ bạn hiểu không.

25:41	Don't be so dazed.	Đừng quá sững sờ.

25:50	So it is our habit,	Vậy đó là thói
	our tradition,	quen, truyền thống

25:53	our way of living to say,
	'I will get over

25:59	my anger, my jealousy,	lối sống khi nói, 'tôi
		sẽ vượt qua cơn giận

26:01	my sense of inadequacy,'	ghen tức, cảm giác
	and so on, so on.	thiếu thốn' và v.v..

26:10	So the mind has become	Vậy là trí óc trở
		nên quen thuộc tâm lý

26:14	accustomed
	psychologically

26:16	to the idea of time,	với ý niệm thời gian, tức
		ngày mai, hay nhiều ngày mai.

26:20	that is, tomorrow,

26:22	or many tomorrows.

26:25	Now we are	Chúng ta hỏi lại điều ấy.
	questioning that.

26:28	You understand?	Hiểu không? Chúng ta
	We are saying that is not necessary.	nói nó không cần thiết.

26:32	Time is not necessary	Thời gian không cần
		thiết để thoát tham lam

26:35	to be free of greed.

26:41	Right?	Phải không?

26:44	That is, if you	Tức là, nếu thoát khỏi
		thời gian và bạn tham

26:50	are free of time

26:52	and you are greedy,

26:55	there is no tomorrow.	không có ngày mai.

26:59	You attack it.	Bạn tấn công nó.

27:03	You act, you do something	Bạn hành động, bạn
	immediately.	làm gì đó ngay tức thì.

27:07	I don't know if you	Không biết bạn
	are following all this?	theo kịp không?

27:10	So, psychologically thought	Vậy ý nghĩ tạo
	has invented time	thời gian tâm lý

27:15	as a means of avoiding,	như phương tiện chạy trốn

27:19	as a means of	như phương tiện triển hạn
	postponing,

27:23	as a means of indulging	như phương tiện bám
		vào điều đã có.

27:27	in that which
	it already has.

27:31	I don't know if you are	Không biết bạn theo kịp không?
	following all this, right?	- phải không?

27:36	So thought psychologically	Vậy ý nghĩ tạo
	has invented time,	thời gian tâm lý

27:40	out of laziness,	do lười biếng, v.v..
	and so on, so on.

27:44	Now, can you be free	Giờ thì bạn có thể
	of the idea of tomorrow,	thoát khỏi ý niệm

27:51	psychologically?	ngày mai tâm lý?

27:54	Please, do go into it,	Hãy tìm hiểu đi, nhìn nó.
	look at it.

27:57	Take your own anxiety,	Lấy lo âu của
	or whatever it is,	bạn, hay gì đó

28:03	your sexual indulgence,	tham đắm tình
		dục, nếu bạn thích

28:07	if you want that,

28:13	or if you think,	hay nếu bạn nghĩ nhờ
	through certain sensory activity	hành động cảm giác

28:17	you will reach whatever	bạn sẽ đạt được
	you want to reach,	điều gì bạn muốn

28:21	which is, the reaching	đạt được là vận
		hành thời gian.

28:24	is the movement of time.

28:28	Can you see	Bạn có thể
	the truth of it,	thấy sự thực ấy

28:31	and the very perception	và chính nhận thức
	of that ends it?	ấy chấm dứt nó?

28:36	I wonder if you have got this?	Không biết bạn hiểu không?
	Right?

28:38		Phải không?

28:39	Are you doing it	Bạn có làm như
	as we are talking?	chúng ta nói?

28:41	Or is it just an idea?	Hay chỉ là ý niệm?

28:52	So the mind has enquired	Nên trí óc tìm
	into time,	hiểu thời gian

28:57	which is very complicated,	điều rất phức tạp,
	we are making it very brief,	chúng ta nói ngắn thôi

29:03	that the concept that tomorrow	quan niệm ngày mai như
	is a means to an end	phương tiện đạt mục đích

29:07	psychologically	về tâm lý là ảo tưởng.
	is illusory.

29:16	Therefore there is only	Vì vậy chỉ có nhận
	perception and action,	thức và hành động

29:21	without the interval	mà không có khoảng
	of time.	cách thời gian.

29:23	I wonder if you get	Không biết bạn
	all this?	nắm hết không?

29:30	One sees the danger	Bạn thấy nguy
	of nationalism,	hiểm của yêu nước

29:34	the danger, because of wars,	nguy hiểm, vì chiến
	and so on, and so on.	tranh, v.v, v.v..

29:39	The very perception	Chính nhận thức
	is the action	là hành động

29:42	and the ending	và chấm dứt cảm nhận
	of the feeling

29:44	of being attached	chấm dứt bám
	to a particular group.	víu vào nhóm nào.

29:50	Right?	Phải không? Bạn làm chứ?
	Are you doing it?

29:55	When every evening	Mỗi sáng truyền hình nói
	the television says,

29:59	'British, British, British,'	'Anh, Anh, Anh'

30:03	or 'the French,	hay Pháp và Pháp và Pháp
	and French, and French,'

30:05	whenever one is in France,	bất cứ khi nào
	and so on.	bạn ở Pháp, v.v..

30:08	To see that	Thấy rằng phân chia
	this division	ấy đem tai họa đến

30:15	brings disaster,

30:21	and the idea: 'Give me	và rồi 'Cho tôi
	time to be free from	thời gian để thoát

30:24	the conditioning, which	qui định tôi đã
	I have had from childhood,	có từ bé rằng

30:27	that I am British,	tôi là người Anh
	or this, or that,'	- hay này nọ', thấy vậy

30:30	to see that

30:33	without the idea of time	mà không ý niệm thời
	and therefore - action.	gian và liền hành động.

30:37	You are following this?	Theo kịp không?
	I wish you would do this.	Mong bạn làm vậy.

30:43	Therefore that	Và liền hết xung đột.
	ends conflict.

30:46	You understand?	Hiểu không?

30:48	The struggle	Tôi phải thoát
	that I must be free.	khỏi tranh đấu.

30:55	We are together	Chúng ta cùng đến đây chứ?
	in this somewhat?

31:00	I see we are not,	Tôi thấy bạn không

31:04	because this demands really	bởi việc này đòi hỏi
	a very serious mind,	trí óc thật nghiêm túc

31:09	a mind that says,	trí óc nói, 'tôi
	'I want to find out.'	muốn tìm tòi'.

31:19	So, meditation is	Thiền định là
	the ending of time.	chấm dứt thời gian.

31:26	You understand?	Hiểu không? Ồ không,
		bạn không hiểu.

31:28	Oh, no,
	you don't understand.

31:37	Because that is what	Bởi đó là việc
	we have done just now:	chúng ta vừa mới làm

31:41	we have meditated,	chúng ta thiền định

31:44	we have meditated	chúng ta thiền định để
		tìm bản chất thời gian.

31:45	to find out
	the nature of time.

31:50	Time is actual,	Thời gian là thực, cần
		thiết để đi từ đây đến kia

31:54	necessary to go
	from here to there,

31:59	but psychologically	nhưng thời gian
	time doesn't exist.	tâm lý không có.

32:06	To discover that	Khám phá điều ấy là sự thật
		lớn lao, sự kiện phi thường

32:08	is a tremendous truth,
	tremendous fact,

32:12	because you have broken away	bởi bạn đã đập vỡ
	from all the traditions.	mọi truyền thống.

32:16	You understand?	Hiểu không? Truyền thống nói

32:18	Tradition says,
	'Take time,

32:23	you will reach God,	'Cần thời gian, sẽ gặp Thượng
	if you do this, this, that.'	đế nếu bạn làm này, nọ'.

32:55	And also it means hope,	Và cũng nghĩa là hy
		vọng, chấm dứt hy vọng.

32:59	the ending of hope.

33:04	You understand?	Hiểu không?

33:09	I wonder	Không biết bạn hiểu không?
	if you understand this?

33:15	According	Theo Địa ngục của Dante
	to Dante's Inferno,

33:18	it means	nghĩa là chấm dứt hy vọng
	the ending of hope	- hiểu không?

33:20	- you understand?

33:24	Whereas we are saying	Trái lại chúng ta nói
	hope implies the future.	hy vọng hàm ý tương lai.

33:30	That is, one is depressed,	Tức là, bạn chán nản, âu lo
	anxious,

33:36	hopeless,	cảm giác thiếu
	sense of inadequacy,	thốn tuyệt vọng

33:39	'Give me hope to advance,	cho tôi hy vọng để tiến
	to learn, to be free.'	lên, học hỏi, thoát.

33:46	So, when you see that there is	Khi thấy rằng không có
	psychologically no future,	tương lai tâm lý, bạn

33:53	then you are dealing	đáp ứng với sự kiện,
	with facts,	không với hy vọng.

33:56	not with hopes.

33:58	I wonder	Bạn thấy vậy không?
	if you see this?

34:03	Because hope is time.	Bởi hy vọng là thời gian
		- phải không?

34:08	Right?

34:13	So, what we have done	Nên việc chúng ta làm
	in the enquiry into time	khi tìm hiểu thời gian

34:18	is the beginning	là khởi đầu thiền định.
	of meditation.

34:21	It is part	Một phần của thiền định.
	of meditation.

34:27	And to find out if there is	Và để tìm xem có điều gì vượt thời gian
	something beyond time	- vượt thời gian

34:31	- beyond time -

34:40	one mustn't carry	bạn không nên đem theo vấn đề nào
	any problems with us, right?	- phải không?

34:47	Because we are burdened	bởi chúng ta gánh nặng vấn đề
	with problems.	- phải không?

34:53	Aren't we?	Phải không?

34:55	Personal problems,	Vấn đề cá nhân,
	collective problems,	vấn đề tập thể

34:59	international problems,	vấn đề quốc tế, v.v..
	and so on.

35:03	Why do we have	Tại sao chúng ta có vấn đề?
	problems?

35:09	Please ask yourself:	Hãy hỏi chính mình:
	why do you have problems?	tại sao có vấn đề?

35:13	Sexual, imaginary,	Tình dục, tưởng tượng, vấn
		đề không có việc làm, v.v..

35:19	problems of not
	having jobs, and so on,

35:24	problems of inadequacy,	vấn đề thiếu thốn

35:30	problems of saying 'I want	vấn đề 'tôi muốn lên thiên
	to reach heaven and I can't,'	đàng và tôi không thể'

35:35	and all the rest of it	và v.v..
	- you know, problems.	- bạn biết đó, vấn đề.

35:37	Why do we have them?	Tại sao có vấn đề?

35:40	Is it possible	Có thể nào
	- please, listen -	- hãy nghe

35:44	is it possible	có thể nào sống một
	to live a life	đời không có vấn đề?

35:46	without a single
	problem?

35:56	You understand	Bạn biết vậy là sao không?
	what that means?

36:00	As each issue arises	Khi một vấn đề nổi lên hoá
	to resolve it,	giải nó tức thì, không mang theo.

36:04	instantly,
	not carry it over.

36:06	The carrying it over,	Mang theo, là vận
	which is the movement of time,	hành của thời gian

36:10	creates the problem.	tạo ra vấn đề.

36:12	I wonder	Bạn thấy vậy không?
	if you see this?

36:16	Right?	Phải không?

36:18	If I have a problem	Nếu tôi có vấn đề
	- if one has a problem,	- nếu bạn có vấn đề

36:22	first of all,	trước hết tại sao
	why has one a problem?	bạn có vấn đề?

36:28	What is a problem?	Vấn đề là gì?

36:32	A problem is something	Vấn đề là điều
	that you have not understood,	gì bạn không hiểu

36:36	resolved,	không giải quyết, chấm dứt
	finished with,

36:39	but which you	mà bạn lo lắng, quan tâm
	worry over,

36:42	you are concerned,

36:45	you cannot understand it,	bạn không thể hiểu và
	and you struggle, and struggle,	bạn tranh đấu, tranh đấu

36:49	day after day, day	từng ngày, ngày
	after day, day after day.	này qua ngày nọ.

36:53	So the mind is crippled	Nên trí óc què quặt bởi tiến trình ấy
	by this process.	- hiểu không?

36:58	Do you understand?

37:02	So, if there is no time	Vậy nếu không có thời gian
		- hiểu không?

37:06	- do you understand? -

37:08	there is no problem.	thì không có vấn đề.

37:10	I wonder	Bạn có thấy vậy không?
	if you see this?

37:13	Do you really see this,	Bạn có thực sự thấy
	actually in your heart,	vậy, thực trong tâm

37:16	not up here, in your mind,	không phải chỉ trí
	but in your heart,	óc, mà trong tâm

37:19	do you see that the man, or	bạn có thấy rằng con
	the woman, who has problems,	người hễ có vấn đề

37:25	is caught in time?	là kẹt trong thời gian?

37:29	But as an issue arises,	Nhưng khi vấn đề nổi lên nếu
		trí óc thoát khỏi thời gian

37:32	if the mind is
	free of time,

37:35	it deals with it instantly,	nó ứng xử tức
	finished.	thì, chấm hết.

37:39	I wonder	Bạn có thấy vậy không?
	if you see this.

37:41	The moment you have	Khi có ý niệm
	the idea of time,	thời gian, bạn nói

37:43	say 'I will resolve it,	'Tôi sẽ giải quyết',
	I will take time.'	'sẽ cần thời gian'.

37:48	The movement away from the fact	Lúc chạy khỏi sự
	is the problem.	kiện là có vấn đề.

37:58	Are you all asleep?	Các bạn buồn ngủ à?

38:06	So, if we are to enquire	Vậy nếu phải
	into this,	tìm hiểu điều này

38:08	there must be	thì phải không
	no problem whatsoever,	có vấn đề gì hết

38:12	which is, the mind	tức là, trí óc
	must be free to look.	phải tự do để nhìn.

38:22	Right?	Phải không?

38:30	A problem arises	Vấn đề có

38:35	when our relationships	khi quan hệ không được hiểu.
	are not understood.

38:39	Right?	Phải không?

38:40	Whether it is intimate,	Dù đó là thân hay sơ.
	or impersonal.

38:48	Why have we not	Tại sao chúng ta
	understood relationship	không hiểu quan hệ

38:52	and seen the depth of it,	và thấy chiều sâu
	or the futility of it,	hay vô ích của nó

38:56	and go on with it?	mà cứ tiếp tục?

38:58	But apparently,	Nhưng có vẻ
	we have never	chúng ta không hề

39:02	resolved this problem	giải quyết vấn đề quan hệ
	of relationship.	- phải không?

39:07	Right?

39:09	You know all about it,	Bạn biết cả
	don't you?	chứ, phải không?

39:15	Why?	Tại sao?

39:25	Is it you love	Bạn yêu thương hay
	and you are not loved?	không được yêu thương?

39:32	Is that a problem?	Đó là vấn đề?

39:36	Come on, sirs.	Nào. Đó, đó là vấn đề.
	It is, it is a problem.

39:39	Or you love and	Hay bạn yêu thương và người kia thì không
	the other doesn't love.	- phải không?

39:45	Right?

39:48	Or in your relationship with	Hay trong quan hệ với
	another you are possessive,	kẻ khác bạn bị sở hữu

39:52	you are dominant,	bạn bị thống trị, lệ thuộc
	you know, dependent,

39:58	you want something	bạn muốn điều gì
	from her or from him	từ cô ta hay anh ta

40:00	- sex,	tình dục, thú vui, dễ chịu.

40:03	pleasure,

40:04	comfort.

40:06	Somebody said to the speaker	Ai đó nói với
	the other day:	người nói hôm nọ

40:12	'If I leave who will	'Nếu tôi bỏ người
	wash my clothes?'	giặt giũ cho tôi?'

40:17	Do you understand?	Hiểu không?

40:21	I wonder if you	Không biết bạn
	understand all this?	hiểu hết không?

40:25	So what is	Vậy quan hệ là gì
	relationship,

40:29	out of which we have made	mà chúng ta tạo
	such a tremendous problem?	ra vấn đề quá lớn?

40:37	It is to be related	Đó là quan hệ
	to another	với người khác

40:40	- relationship means	quan hệ là quan
	related to another.	hệ với ai khác.

40:46	To one, or to many,	Với một hay nhiều người, hay cả nhân loại
		- phải không?

40:48	or to the whole
	of mankind, right?

40:52	To the one, or many,	Với duy nhất, hay
		nhiều hay cả nhân loại

40:54	or to the whole
	of mankind.

40:58	You understand?	Hiểu không? Ồ, không hiểu!
	Oh, you don't!

41:08	Why is there not	Tại sao không có hoà
	in this relationship peace?	bình trong quan hệ?

41:17	A depth of understanding	Hiểu biết sâu sắc lẫn nhau
	of each other,

41:24	which brings about love	sinh ra yêu thương
		- hiểu không?

41:26	- do you understand?

41:28	Why isn't there?	Tại sao không có?

41:35	The relationship between	Quan hệ giữa hai người
	two people - man, woman,	- nam và nữ với

41:41	with their sex -	tình dục gọi là yêu thương
	is called love.	- phải không?

41:43	Right?

41:45	Right?	Phải không?

41:47	Oh, for God's sake,	Ồ, vì Chúa, đừng để
		chúng ta đạo đức giả

41:49	don't let us be
	hypocrites,

41:51	let's face	hãy đối mặt
	these things.	những việc này.

41:54	It is called love.	Đó gọi yêu thương
	And is it love?	hay là yêu thương?

42:07	Or is it the demand	Hay là đòi hỏi của
	of sensory satisfaction,	thỏa mãn cảm giác

42:13	the demand	đòi hỏi bầu bạn
	of companionship,

42:18	the demand which is born	đòi hỏi sinh ra do cô đơn
	out of loneliness,

42:24	the demand that says,	đòi hỏi nói 'tôi
		không thể cô đơn'

42:26	'I cannot be alone,

42:30	I cannot stand this immense	'Tôi không thể đứng một
	solitude in myself,	mình trong cô độc bao la

42:35	therefore I must have somebody	nên tôi phải có ai đó
	on whom I can depend'	để có thể lệ thuộc vào'

42:40	- psychologically all this.	về tâm lý mọi cái đó.

42:43	You need the postman,	Bạn cần người đưa thư,
	the porter, and all the rest of it,	phu khuân vác, và v.v..

42:47	but psychologically,	nhưng tâm lý trong quan
	in relationship	hệ giữa nam và nữ

42:51	between man and woman,

42:57	why is there	tại sao có phân chia lớn lao?
	this tremendous division?	- hiểu không?

43:01	You understand?

43:06	And is one aware	Và bạn có nhận ra điều ấy?
	of this?

43:12	Aware of this	Nhận ra phân chia lớn
	great division	lao giữa bạn và người

43:15	between you and another

43:19	whom you say	bạn nói bạn yêu thương.
	you love.

43:28	Do we need to go into that,	Chúng ta cần tìm hiểu
	is it necessary?	không, cần thiết không?

43:32	Apparently it is,	Có vẻ cần, được thôi.
	all right.

43:38	Have you noticed	Bạn có lưu ý giữa hai người
	between two people,

43:44	their thinking, their feeling	suy nghĩ, cảm nhận không hề như nhau
	are never the same, right?	- phải không?

43:50	One is ambitious,	Người tham vọng, kẻ không
	the other is not,

43:54	one is aggressive,	người năng nổ, kẻ không
	the other is not,

43:57	one is possessive,	người chiếm hữu, kẻ không
	the other is not,

44:01	one is dominant	người thống trị
	and the other is docile.	và kẻ thì dễ bảo

44:08	Which means what?	Vậy là sao?

44:10	Each one is	Mỗi người ích kỷ trong hành động riêng
		- phải không?

44:15	self-centred
	in his activity, right?

44:21	Are you following?	Theo kịp không?

44:23	Observe yourself.	Hãy quan sát chính bạn.

44:25	Self-centred	Ích kỷ trong chính bạn
	in yourself,

44:27	and the other, too,	và người khác cũng ích kỷ
	is self-centred,

44:31	so there is division.	nên có phân chia.

44:33	So where there is division	Ở đâu có phân chia
	there must be quarrels,	tất phải có cãi cọ

44:36	there must be	tất phải có đối nghịch
	antagonism,

44:37	there must be all kinds	tất phải có mọi
	of things going on.	việc xảy ra giữa

44:41	Between nationality, when there	các quốc gia, có phân chia tất có rối loạn
	is division, there is chaos.	- phải không?

44:46	Right?

44:47	And this division	Và phân chia ấy ta gọi là yêu thương
	we call love.	- phải không?

44:51	Right?

44:53	You don't face it.	Bạn không giáp mặt.

45:01	So, in enquiring	Nên trong tìm hiểu điều gì
	into something

45:08	beyond time,	vượt thời gian

45:13	there must be	cần phải có cảm
		giác quan hệ trọn vẹn

45:14	complete sense
	of relationship,

45:19	which can only come about	điều chỉ có thể xảy
	when there is love.	ra khi có yêu thương.

45:24	Right?	Phải không?

45:28	Love is not pleasure,	Yêu thương không phải thú vui,
	obviously.	dĩ nhiên. Bạn giảm giá trị nó.

45:31	You cheapen it.

45:34	Right?	Phải không?

45:36	Love is not desire,	Yêu thương không là ước muốn

45:39	love is not	yêu thương không phải thỏa
	the fulfilment	mãn đòi hỏi cảm giác.

45:42	of your own
	sensory demands.

45:47	Are you following	Theo kịp không?
	all this?

45:51	So, without love,	Nên không có yêu thương

45:54	do what you will	làm điều gì bạn muốn

45:58	- stand on your head	lộn ngược đầu hay
	and sit in meditation	ngồi thiền định

46:01	for the rest of your	xếp tréo chân cả đời bạn
	life cross-legged,

46:04	put on fancy robes,	mặc áo lạ lùng,
		làm gì bạn thích

46:06	do anything you like.

46:12	Without that quality	Không có đặc tính ấy

46:21	there is nothing.	thì chẳng có gì.

46:31	So if the person wants to find	Vậy nếu muốn tìm kiếm
	something beyond time,	điều gì vượt thời gian

46:36	there must be right	phải có quan hệ
	relationship completely,	đúng đắn, trọn vẹn

46:41	so that no problems	để không có vấn đề.
	exist.

46:46	And this quality	Và đặc tính ấy của
	of great affection, love,	yêu mến, yêu thương

46:52	which is not	không phải kết
	the result of thought,	quả của ý nghĩ

46:56	- right? -	Phải không?
	that must exist.	- nó phải có.

47:01	Then we can proceed	Rồi thì chúng ta có
	to find out.	thể tiếp tục tìm kiếm.

47:04	You see	Bạn thấy biết
	how difficult it is?	bao là khó nhăn.

47:08	Because most of us are	Bởi hầu hết chúng
	so indulgent with ourselves.	ta quá chiều theo mình

47:14	Most of us are so	Đa số chúng ta quá nhỏ nhen
		- phải không?

47:19	petty, right?

47:21	So small in our outlook.	Quá nhỏ bé trong cách nhìn.

47:27	So your mind	Nên trí óc cần phải
	must be free	thoát mọi vận hành ích kỷ

47:29	from all this
	self-centred,

47:32	anxious movements.	âu lo
		- phải không?

47:35	Right?

47:38	Because that creates	Bởi chúng tạo ra vấn đề
	the problem,

47:40	and when the mind	và khi trí óc có vấn đề
	has problems,

47:44	it cannot possibly	nó không thể thấy rõ ràng.
	see clearly.

47:52	The mind that is	Trí óc tán gẫu không ngừng
	everlastingly chattering,

48:00	such a mind is not	Trí óc ấy không im lặng
	a quiet mind, right?	- phải không?

48:04	Then the problem	Rồi vấn đề là:
	arises:

48:06	how am I	làm sao tôi ngừng tán gẫu
	to stop chattering?	- hiểu không?

48:09	You understand?

48:13	Listen to that	Lắng nghe cẩn thận.
	very carefully.

48:16	You realise	Bạn biết trí óc tán gẫu
	your mind is chattering,

48:19	then you say,	rồi bạn nói,
	'How am I to stop it?'	'Làm sao dừng nó?'

48:23	The moment you have	Lúc bạn đặt câu hỏi
	put the question,

48:26	you are already entered	bạn đã bước vào
	into the time element.	yếu tố thời gian

48:30	I wonder	Bạn thấy vậy không?
	if you see that.

48:35	Yes?	Thấy?

48:38	So the 'how'	'Làm sao' nghĩa là thời gian
	means time,

48:44	and because you	và vì bạn hỏi 'làm sao'
	ask the 'how'

48:46	the other fellow	bạn khác mới
	invents the system,	chế ra pháp môn

48:52	invents the method,	bày ra phương
	the practice,	pháp, tập luyện

48:57	put on the yellow robe,	khoác lên áo vàng,
	blue robe, or whatever it is.	áo xanh, hay gì khác.

49:04	So, see the mind	Vậy thấy trí óc tán gẫu
	chattering,

49:11	and you are not different	và bạn không khác
	from that chattering.	với tán gẫu ấy.

49:16	Your mind is chattering,	Trí óc tán gẫu
		và trí óc là bạn.

49:18	and your mind is you.

49:23	So when you have	Nên khi bạn nắm
	that principle,	nguyên tắc này

49:26	that actual truth	sự thật thực tế bạn
		và vấn đề là một

49:28	that you and the problem
	are one,

49:34	you and the chattering	bạn và tán gẫu là một
	are one,

49:37	then all your effort to change it	rồi thì mọi cố gắng
	comes to an end.	thay đổi nó chấm dứt.

49:44	Then you are facing	Rồi bạn giáp mặt sự kiện
	the fact

49:48	that your mind	rằng trí óc tán
	is chattering,	gẫu, bạn tán gẫu.

49:51	that you are chattering.

49:57	So when you so observe,	Vậy khi bạn quan
	what takes place?	sát điều gì xảy ra?

50:02	In that observation,	Trong quan sát ấy

50:04	you have brought	bạn đem hết năng
	all your energy to observe.	lực để quan sát.

50:07	That energy has been	Năng lực ấy bị phân
	dissipated by saying	tán bởi tán gẫu

50:11	'How am I to stop it?'	'Làm sao tôi dừng
		nó?' Bạn hiểu không?

50:13	You understand this?

50:15	I wonder	Không biết bạn hiểu không?
	if you understand this?

50:17	Can we go on?	Chúng ta tiếp chứ?

50:24	So the problem is:	Vậy vấn đề là:

50:28	can the mind...	Trí óc có thể

50:31	That is, the mind	Tức là, trí óc là
	being the senses,	giác quan, cảm nhận

50:37	the feelings,

50:40	the reactions,	phản ứng, cảm
		xúc, hiểu biết

50:48	the emotions,

50:51	the intellect

50:54	- all that is the mind,	mọi cái đó là trí óc
	right?	- phải không?

50:59	Can that mind,	Trí óc ấy có
	- including the brain -	thể, gồm cả não

51:02	can that mind	Trí óc có thể
	be absolutely quiet?	tuyệt đối im lặng?

51:09	You understand	Bạn hiểu câu hỏi không?
	my question?

51:12	Because that is	Bởi đó là một
	part of meditation:	phần thiền định

51:16	to bring about,	Để tạo ra, như mọi
		người cố gắng làm

51:21	as people try to do,

51:23	to bring about through	Tạo ra nhờ pháp
	various systems, methods,	môn, cách thức

51:26	controls, and so on,	kiểm soát, v.v.., để
		trí óc tuyệt đối im lặng

51:29	so the mind is
	absolutely quiet,

51:37	because it is only when	bởi chỉ khi trí óc
	the mind is quiet completely	tuyệt đối im lặng

51:42	that you can hear	bạn mới có thể
	- right? -	nghe, có thể thấy.

51:45	that you can see.

51:50	So the various forms	Nên nhiều kiểu thiền định
	of meditation,

51:56	the Tibetan, Hindu,	Tây tạng, Hinđu,
		thiền T.M vô nghĩa

52:01	the nonsensical
	TM meditation,

52:04	you know,	bạn biết đó,
	transcendental meditation,	Thiền thực nghiệm

52:09	a nice word spoilt,	chữ đẹp bị
	isn't it?	hỏng, phải không?

52:13	'Transcendental' is ruined	Thực nghiệm bị hỏng
	by this cheap nonsense.	bởi thứ vô nghĩa ấy.

52:21	All these various forms	Mọi kiểu thiền
	of meditation have tried,	định ấy cố gắng

52:30	through control,	qua kiểm soát, thư
	through relaxation,	giãn, tự thôi miên

52:34	through self-hypnosis

52:37	- by repetition,	tụng đọc, tạo
	repetition -	ra trí óc im lặng

52:40	to bring about
	a quiet mind,

52:44	which means	nghĩa là
	- listen to it -	- lắng nghe đi

52:46	which means allowing time	tức là để thời
	to bring this.	gian đem điều đó đến.

52:53	You understand?	Hiểu không?

52:55	One's mind	Trí óc bạn
	is not quiet now,	hiện không im lặng

52:58	but I will practise,	nhưng tôi sẽ tập
	I will control,	luyện, sẽ kiểm soát

53:00	I will be aware,	Tôi sẽ nhận thức và qua thời gian sẽ được
		- phải không?

53:04	and through time
	it will come about.

53:08	Right?

53:09	But when there is	Nhưng khi thấu hiểu sự thực
	understanding of the truth

53:15	that time is illusory,	thời gian là ảo tưởng,
	you can't change it,	bạn không thể thay đổi nó

53:18	time will not change	thời gian không làm thay đổi
	- you understand? -	- hiểu không?

53:21	then you are faced	rồi thì bạn
	with the fact,	giáp mặt sự kiện

53:26	that your mind	rằng trí óc bạn tán gẫu.
	is chattering.

53:33	When you are observing	Khi bạn quan sát sự kiện
	a fact,

53:36	completely, with all your energy,	trọn vẹn với cả năng
	the fact changes.	lực, sự kiện thay đổi.

53:43	You will see, if you	Bạn sẽ thấy, nếu
	do it, you will see it.	bạn làm, bạn sẽ thấy.

53:50	Because you have brought	Bởi bạn đem cả
	your energy into the observation,	năng lực để quan sát

53:55	and that energy	và năng lực ấy bị phân tán
	has been dissipated,

53:59	when you are trying	khi bạn cố gắng
	to change 'what is.'	thay đổi 'hiện là'.

54:04	Look, I will show you	Nào, tôi sẽ cho
	something.	bạn xem một điều!

54:08	Human beings are violent,	Con người là bạo lực
	right?	- phải không?

54:13	For various reasons, we won't	Vì nhiều lý do, lúc này
	go into it for the moment.	không tìm hiểu điều này.

54:20	And human beings have	Và con người đặt ra không bạo lực
	invented non-violence.	- phải không?

54:24	Right?

54:26	The non-violence	Không bạo lực là không thực.
	is a non-fact.

54:30	Are you following this?	Theo kịp không?

54:34	The fact is violence.	Sự kiện là bạo lực

54:38	But when you try	Nhưng bạn cố gắng
	to pursue non-violence,	chạy theo không bạo lực

54:43	you are pursuing	bạn chạy theo không thực
	a non-fact,

54:46	and also pursuing	và cũng chạy theo,
	allowing time.	thừa nhận thời gian.

54:52	And when you realise	Và khi bạn hiểu ra
	time does not change,	thời gian không thay đổi

54:56	bring about change, then	không làm thay đổi, bạn
	you are faced with the fact,	liền đối mặt sự kiện

55:00	which is violence.	tức là bạo lực.

55:04	Not 'how to change it.'	Không làm sao để thay đổi.

55:07	There is this	Đó là sự kiện bạo lực.
	fact of violence.

55:10	Now, can the mind	Trí óc có thể quan
	observe	sát sự kiện bạo lực

55:14	this fact of violence,

55:17	without any direction, without	mà không đường hướng,
	any pressure, just to observe it?	không áp lực, chỉ quan sát?

55:24	You understand?	Hiểu không? Quan sát nó.
	Observe it.

55:27	In that observation	Khi quan sát

55:28	the mind has pulled together	trí óc gom toàn bộ năng lực
	all its energy.	- phải không?

55:34	Right?

55:37	So that energy	Năng lực như ánh sáng
	is like the light

55:41	focused on the thing	hội tụ vào vật
	called violence,	gọi là bạo lực

55:44	and that violence	và bạo lực ấy tan mất.
	dissipates.

55:51	Don't go to sleep,	Xin đừng đi ngủ.
	please.

56:01	In meditation,	Thiền định, tức là làm cho
	which is to bring about

56:08	a mind that is	trí óc tuyệt đối im lặng
	absolutely quiet,

56:14	any form of effort is futile,	mọi cố gắng là vô ích
	right?	- phải không?

56:20	I wonder	Bạn thấy vậy không?
	if you understand this?

56:23	To make an effort	Cố gắng để thiền
	to meditate,	định là thời gian

56:27	which means time,

56:30	which means struggle,	là tranh đấu, là
		đạt được điều gì

56:32	which means
	achieving something

56:36	which you have projected.	mà bạn xếp bày ra.

56:42	So, can there be	Vậy có thể quan sát
	an observation	mà không cố gắng?

56:46	without effort?

56:50	Without control?	Không kiểm soát?

56:54	Please listen carefully.	Nghe kỹ nhé.

56:56	I am using	Tôi dùng chữ 'kiểm soát'
	the word 'control'

56:59	with a great deal	rất là do dự
	of hesitation because	bởi vì chúng ta

57:01	we live in a	sống trong xã hội buông thả
	permissive society.	- phải không?

57:06	Right?

57:11	And one does	Và bạn làm gì tuỳ thích
	what one likes

57:16	- the more idiotic	càng ngu ngốc càng tốt
	the better -

57:21	drugs, sex,	ma tuý, tình dục

57:24	putting on clothes that are	mặc quần áo vô nghĩa lý
	so meaningless - you follow? -	- theo kịp không?

57:28	the sloppiness	Thảy đều uỷ mị.
	of it all.

57:34	And the speaker is using	Và khi người nói
	the word 'control'	dùng chữ 'kiểm soát'

57:37	in the sense: when there	trong ý nghĩa khi
	is pure observation,	quan sát thuần tuý

57:41	there is no need	không cần có kiểm soát.
	to control.

57:46	Don't deceive	Đừng tự gạt mình khi nói
	yourself by saying

57:48	'I am observing purely,	'Tôi thuần quan sát
	therefore I have no control,'	vậy tôi không kiểm soát'

57:51	and indulge yourself,	và chiều theo mình,
		thành ra vô nghĩa.

57:53	which becomes
	nonsensical.

57:59	Unless you hear	Trừ khi bạn nghe kỹ
	carefully,

58:03	that a mind	rằng trí óc bị kiểm soát
	that is under control,

58:09	that control brought	rằng kiểm soát
	about by thought,	là do ý nghĩ

58:14	that thought	rằng ý nghĩ là giới hạn
	being limited,

58:17	and out of its limitation	và trong giới hạn
		nó ước muốn điều gì

58:19	it is desiring something,

58:22	and therefore it says,	và vậy là nói,
	'I must control.'	'tôi phải kiểm soát'

58:26	Such a mind has become	Trí óc ấy trở thành
	a slave to an idea	nô lệ cho ý niệm

58:32	- you understand? -	Hiểu không?
	not to a fact;	- không phải cho sự kiện

58:36	to a concept,	mà cho quan niệm,
	to a conclusion.	cho kết luận.

58:40	Like those	Như những người theo đạo kia
	religious people

58:42	who believe very strongly	họ tin rất mạnh mẽ
	about something or other.	vào điều này điều nọ

58:50	They are incapable of talking	Họ không thể nói
	about anything else,	về việc gì khác hay

58:56	thinking freely.	suy nghĩ tự do.

59:01	The speaker was once	Người nói có lần đi lại
	travelling in India, in a train,	ở Ấn độ, trên tàu hỏa

59:06	and there was a European,	và có người Âu,
	an Englishman in fact,	đúng ra là người Anh

59:10	and a very learned Indian	và một người Ấn có
	was in the same compartment.	học thức ở cùng toa

59:15	The Englishman was	Bạn Anh nói
	telling the Indian	với bạn Ấn rằng

59:18	that their religion	tôn giáo thảy đều
	was all nonsense, stupid,	vô nghĩa, ngu ngốc

59:21	you know, went on at it,	bạn biết đó,
	for some time.	tiếp tục một lát.

59:26	And the Indian said,	Và bạn Ấn lịch sự nói
	politely,

59:30	'But you also have	'Nhưng bạn cũng có
	your beliefs, don't you?	niềm tin, phải không?

59:33	You believe in Christ	Bạn tin vào Chúa
	and the Virgin Mary.'	Kytô và Đức Mẹ'.

59:35	'Oh,' he said, 'that is a fact.'	'Ồ,' anh ta nói, 'đó
	(Laughter)	là sự kiện'. (Cười)

59:40	That is the end of	Vậy là chấm
	the conversation.	dứt trò chuyện.

59:44	And most of us	Và đa số chúng ta như vậy.
	are that way.

59:51	So, we are saying:	Nên chúng ta nói:

59:57	a mind	một trí óc đang xung đột
	that is in conflict,

1:00:01	either brought about	dù là do kiểm soát, ý chí
	through control, through will,

1:00:05	which is desire,	tức là ước muốn,
		trí óc có vấn đề

1:00:08	a mind that
	has problems,

1:00:12	a mind that has not	trí óc không
	resolved relationship,	giải quyết quan hệ

1:00:17	and therefore no love,	và vậy là không yêu thương

1:00:19	such a mind is incapable	trí óc ấy không
	of going beyond.	thể vượt lên.

1:00:24	You understand?	Hiểu không?

1:00:26	It can only go	Nó chỉ có thể đi lòng vòng
	to what it thinks is beyond	mà nó nghĩ là vượt lên.

1:00:29	within its own circle.

1:00:32	And it might invent that it	Và nó có thể đặt ra cái
	is going beyond, but it is not.	vượt lên, nhưng không phải.

1:00:37	Right?	Phải không?

1:00:39	So, if we are serious,	Vậy nếu chúng ta nghiêm
	if we have come to this point,	túc, nếu tới chỗ này

1:00:44	that the mind,	rằng trí óc,
	all the senses, the brain,	mọi giác quan, não

1:00:48	and all the things	và mọi thứ mà con
	that man has been caught in,	người kẹt trong đó

1:00:53	are put aside,	được dẹp sang bên,
		bởi có cảm giác bao la

1:00:55	because there is	của yêu thương và thông minh
	this tremendous sense of love

1:00:59	with its intelligence,	chúng ta mới có
		thể tìm kiếm.

1:01:00	then we can proceed	Phải không?
	to find out. Right?

1:01:08	That means,	Nghĩa là trí óc im lặng
	a mind that is quiet,

1:01:15	not only physically quiet,	không chỉ im lặng
	you understand?	vật lý, hiểu không?

1:01:24	But the quietness	Nhưng im lặng không cần phải
	is not necessarily

1:01:26	sitting in a certain position,	ngồi kiểu nào đó,
	you can lie down,	bạn có thể nằm, làm

1:01:30	do what you like,	gì bạn thích nhưng thân
		thể phải tuyệt đối im lặng.

1:01:34	but the body must
	be absolutely quiet.

1:01:38	Right?	Phải không?

1:01:41	Uncontrolled,	Không kiểm soát

1:01:44	because then you impose	bởi khi bạn áp đặt
	and there is conflict.	liền có xung đột.

1:01:54	And the mind,	Và trí óc tự do
	being free

1:01:58	and therefore absolutely	và im lặng tuyệt
	quiet, can observe.	đối có thể quan sát.

1:02:04	It is not 'I am observing'	Không phải 'tôi quan sát'
	- you understand?	- hiểu không?

1:02:10	Then if there is	Nếu có 'tôi quan sát'
	'I observing,'

1:02:14	there is duality,	là có nhị
	there is separation,	nguyên, có phân chia

1:02:18	but there is only observation	chỉ có quan sát
	without the 'I.'	mà không có 'tôi'.

1:02:25	I wonder	Bạn có thấy vậy không?
	if you see all this?

1:02:31	The 'I' is made up	Cái 'tôi' được
	of many things:	tạo do nhiều thứ

1:02:36	past remembrances, past	ký ức cũ, kinh nghiệm
	experiences, past problems,	cũ, vấn đề đã qua

1:02:41	present problems,	vấn đề hiện tại, lo âu
	anxiety	- cái 'tôi', là tôi, là bạn.

1:02:43	- the 'I,' that is me,	Nếu chúng ta đi thật
	that is you.	xa cái 'tôi' vắng mặt.

1:02:49	If we have gone that far,	Hiểu không?
	the 'I' is now absent.

1:02:55	You understand?	Không phải 'tôi' quan sát
	It is not 'I' who is observing,

1:02:58	but there is	mả chỉ có quan sát.
	only observation.

1:03:05	Then what	Rồi điều gì xảy ra?
	takes place?

1:03:09	You understand, sirs,	Bạn biết đó,

1:03:11	this is real meditation now,	đây là thiền định
	what we have done.	thực, chúng ta đã làm.

1:03:16	The sense of enquiry	Ý nghĩa tìm hiểu
		chính bạn, tự tri

1:03:19	into your self,
	self-awareness,

1:03:22	knowing all its	biết hết vấn đề
	problems,

1:03:26	knowing all the desires,	biết mọi ước muốn,
		áp lực, xung đột

1:03:29	pressures, conflicts,

1:03:32	sorrow, pain	đau khổ, đau đớn, mọi
	- all that,	thứ, nhận thức hết.

1:03:35	be aware of all that.

1:03:39	And that awareness can only	Và nhận thức ấy
	come into existence	chỉ có thể có

1:03:42	when you are observing	khi bạn quan sát

1:03:46	your reactions in relationship,	phản ứng trong quan hệ
	right?	- phải không?

1:03:50	You can't observe	Bạn không thể quan
	yourself	sát chính mình

1:03:52	by just going off	chỉ bằng cách bỏ đi
		và ngồi dưới gốc cây.

1:03:55	and sitting under a tree.

1:03:58	You can somewhat	Bạn có thể biết
	observe it,	cách nào đó quan sát

1:04:00	but it is only in relationship	nhưng chỉ trong quan hệ
	all your reactions arise.	mọi phản ứng mới nổi lên.

1:04:09	So the mind is now	Vậy trí óc hiện giờ

1:04:15	in a state	trong trạng thái không có
	where there is no problem,	vấn đề, cố gắng, kiểm soát

1:04:18	no effort, no control,

1:04:22	and, essentially,	và cơ bản là không ý chí
	no will,

1:04:27	because will is	bởi ý chí là chất
	the essence of desire.	liệu của ước muốn.

1:04:31	I don't know if you	Không biết bạn
	have gone into it?	có tìm hiểu nó?

1:04:33	Right?	Phải không?

1:04:35	I will, I want,	Tôi muốn, tôi cần, tôi phải.
	I must.

1:04:41	That is, desire	Tức là, ước vọng

1:04:48	demanding something,	đòi hỏi điều gì
	which is in time.	trong thời gian.

1:04:53	Right?	Phải không?

1:04:55	And to achieve that	Và để đạt được tôi phải
	I must exercise will to gain it.	luyện ý chí để nắm nó.

1:05:00	So the mind is free	Vậy trí óc
	of all that.	thoát mọi thứ đó.

1:05:07	If you have gone	Nếu bạn đã đi xa vậy
	that far,

1:05:12	then what is there?	thì đàng kia là gì?

1:05:17	Man has sought something sacred,	Con người tìm điều thánh thiện
	right?	- phải không?

1:05:23	Something holy,	Điều gì thánh
		thiện, bất tử

1:05:26	something imperishable,

1:05:29	incorruptible, timeless	không hư hoại, phi thời gian
		- bất kể là gì.

1:05:33	- it doesn't matter what.

1:05:36	And he says, 'I have worked,	Và hắn nói, 'tôi làm
	I have taken my life,	việc, đem cả cuộc đời

1:05:41	I have understood	'Tôi hiểu đời tôi trọn
	my life completely,	vẹn, giờ thì gì nào?'

1:05:45	now, what is there?'

1:05:48	You understand?	Bạn hiểu ư? Gì
	What more, what is there beyond?	nữa, gì ở đàng kia?

1:05:58	Because all search	Bởi mọi tìm kiếm phải chấm dứt
	must end, too	- hiểu không?

1:06:01	- you understand?

1:06:03	Because the moment	Bởi lúc mà bạn tìm kiếm
	you are seeking,

1:06:09	how do you know	làm sao biết bạn gặp gì?
	what you find?

1:06:12	You understand	Bạn hiểu tôi hỏi gì không?
	what I am asking?

1:06:15	You are seeking,	Bạn tìm kiếm

1:06:18	God, truth, or whatever	Thượng đế, chân
	it is you are seeking.	lý, hay tìm gì đó

1:06:21	It may be your own pleasure,	Đó có thể là thú vui riêng,
	it may be your own sexual urges.	khao khát tình dục riêng

1:06:25	It may be	Đó có thể là chấm
	your own ending	dứt vài vấn đề, v.v..

1:06:28	to certain problems,
	and so on.

1:06:29	You are seeking.	Bạn tìm kiếm

1:06:33	In that search is implied	Tìm kiếm ấy hàm
	several things.	chứa vài điều.

1:06:38	First of all, when you find it,	Trước hết, khi gặp gì bạn phải biết nó
	you must recognize it.	- phải không?

1:06:42	Right?

1:06:44	In that search	Tìm kiếm ấy
	it must be satisfactory.	phải là thỏa mãn

1:06:48	If not,	Nếu không bạn sẽ ném đi.
	you will throw it out.

1:06:51	It must answer	Nó phải trả
	all your problems,	lời mọi vấn đề

1:06:56	and it won't,	và không thể bởi vấn
		đề do chính bạn tạo.

1:06:58	because the problems
	are created by yourself.

1:07:05	So, the person who says,	Vậy người nói,
	'I am seeking'	'Tôi tìm kiếm'

1:07:10	is really quite	thực sự hoàn
	unbalanced,	toàn mất thăng bằng

1:07:17	because he is playing	bởi hắn đang đùa
	tricks upon himself.	với chính hắn.

1:07:22	So all that now is	Nên mọi việc đó giờ
	totally in abeyance,	dừng hết, chấm hết.

1:07:28	finished.

1:07:32	Then the mind is	Rồi thì trí óc
	absolutely quiet,	tuyệt đối im lặng

1:07:36	in pure observation.	trong thuần quan sát.

1:07:43	Now, anything beyond that	Giờ thì điều siêu
	is merely a description	vượt chỉ là mô tả

1:07:48	- you understand? -	Hiểu không?

1:07:51	is merely putting	chỉ là đặt thành lời
	together words

1:07:54	to convey something	để chuyển tải cái
		không thể trao truyền.

1:07:57	which is incommunicable.

1:08:00	You understand?	Hiểu không?

1:08:08	So, all that one can do	Vậy mọi thứ
		bạn có thể làm

1:08:18	is not to describe that,	là không diễn tả nó

1:08:21	but to meet another	mà giáp mặt nó
		với cùng năng lực

1:08:24	with the same capacity,

1:08:27	with the same intensity,	cùng cường độ, cùng mức độ

1:08:29	at the same level.

1:08:32	You understand	Bạn hiểu tôi nói gì không?
	what I am talking about?

1:08:36	What is love?	Yêu thương là gì?

1:08:42	It is to meet another	Là giáp mặt người khác

1:08:46	with the same	với cùng cường độ, cùng
	intensity,	mức độ, cùng thời điểm.

1:08:49	at the same level,

1:08:51	at the same time.

1:08:53	You understand?	Hiểu không?

1:08:55	Isn't it?	Phải không? Đó là yêu thương.
	That is love.

1:09:01	I am not talking	Tôi không nói yêu thương
	of physical love,	vật lý, tôi nói yêu thương

1:09:05	I am talking of love

1:09:07	which is not desire,	không phải ước muốn,
	which is not pleasure.	không phải thú vui

1:09:10	To meet somebody	Giáp mặt ai đó với cùng cường độ
		- phải không?

1:09:12	with the same intensity,
	- right? -

1:09:18	with the same	cùng cảm giác thời gian,
	sense of time,	- thời gian trong nghĩa

1:09:24	- time in the sense,
	you know,

1:09:26	and with the same	và với cùng nhiệt nồng.
	passion.

1:09:29	That is love.	Đó là yêu thương.

1:09:35	Now, if there is	Giờ nếu có yêu thương
	that love in another,	ấy trong người kia

1:09:39	and you have this quality	và bạn có đặc tính
	of mind, which is silent,	của trí óc im lặng

1:09:44	there is communication	liền có trao đổi - phải
	- right? -	không? - không cần lời.

1:09:48	without words.

1:09:52	That is, a communication	Đó là trao đổi trong
	which is really communion,	cảm thông thực sự

1:09:58	complete sharing	hoàn toàn chia sẻ điều gì
	of something

1:10:01	which is not capable	không thể đặt thành lời.
	of being put into words.

1:10:09	The moment you put	Giây phút bạn đặt thành lời
	it into words it is gone,

1:10:12	because the word	nó đã ra đi, bởi
	is not the thing.	lời không phải vật.

1:10:21	So, at the end	Vậy lúc chấm dứt
	of these talks,	những buổi nói này

1:10:26	six: four talks and two
	question and answers,

1:10:32	where are we?	bốn buổi nói và hai buổi
		hỏi đáp, chúng ta ở đâu?

1:10:37	Where is each one of us	Mỗi người chúng ta ở đâu

1:10:40	with regard to what you have heard,	với những gì bạn đã
	and what you have learned,	nghe, những gì bạn đã học

1:10:43	what you have seen	đã nhìn chính mình?
	for yourself?

1:10:49	Are they just	Chúng chỉ là lời
	mere words	cho bạn mang theo?

1:10:55	for you to carry?

1:10:58	Or is there a deep	Hay có chăng
	fundamental change,	thay đổi sâu thẳm

1:11:07	so that you are free	để bạn thoát
	of all your problems,	khỏi mọi vấn đề

1:11:13	free of fear,	rời sợ hãi và có hương thơm

1:11:16	and there is
	that perfume

1:11:18	which can never die,	không thể tàn
	which is love.	phai, là yêu thương.

1:11:24	And out of that action,	Và từ hành động ấy

1:11:27	from that comes	từ đó có thông
	intelligence and action.	minh và hành động.

1:11:31	Do you understand?	Bạn hiểu không?

1:11:35	Right, sirs.	Đúng vậy.